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Posted on 9/6/17 at 2:03 pm to
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 2:03 pm to
Bama not being able to find a FG kicker doesn't stop them from being in the hunt for a title though.
Posted by scott2274
Member since Jan 2009
317 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 2:07 pm to
U can't stand the Guy!! WTF is this garbage. He's our football coach. He ain't here to win most popular contest. He's here to figure out why we can't kick the ball in the endzone. So that's what he is doing. Next man up. There ain't no agenda!! If there is one, IT'S TO WIN A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!! U one stupid MOFO!! Get on board bitch. U might miss out on a fun ride.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 2:12 pm to
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The hypocrisy of the fanbase drives me nuts.


Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
8053 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 2:14 pm to
Ed Orgeron has the great fortune to be gifted an elite program with elite talent through no merit of his own.

He never should have gotten this job and only did so through the miserable failure of this athletic department's administration.

However ...LSU does have two of the best coordinators in all of football and a loaded roster of talent to cover up Ed Orgeron's glaring inadequacies and lack of resume.

He is blessed that LSU is bigger than the HC and the state is full of talent that lives and breathes LSU Football.

So recruiting should take care of itself and the program that Saban and Miles established should be able to survive this for a while.

Hopefully ....until those coordinators leave.

But on the bright side...we upgraded from BBQ to gumbo!

ETA- I failed to mention what a wonderful orator Ed Orgeron is ...okay okay so maybe we upgraded there ?

Pffffft hahahahhaha ridiculous
This post was edited on 9/6/17 at 2:20 pm
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19947 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 2:38 pm to
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I believe the plan is to kick it high and deep...close to the goal line and have coverage team keep them pinned inside the 20. Touch backs come out to the 25. Risk/reward scenario.

yea, but with our defense, there's essentially no difference between a team starting at their 25 or their 18. I'd just kick the damn ball out of the end zone and eliminate the risk of a big return. Give it to them on the 25 and let our defense do its thing.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19947 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 2:42 pm to
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While I like what I see from O so far, I think he is overly critical of Etling with no sense of confidence to balance it out.

Spurrier was publicly very critical of his QBs, and their offense was a juggernaut for a decade. I've never been a believer in "keeping all criticism in the locker room." This is big-time football, and criticism will come from the media, fans, and of course from the coaches. These players aren't snowflakes - they can handle it.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11195 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 2:50 pm to
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prplngldtigr

Working out material for your tailgate schtick?
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
8053 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 2:53 pm to
Hahahahahaha it's therapeutic okay
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 2:57 pm to
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Spurrier was publicly very critical of his QBs, and their offense was a juggernaut for a decade. I've never been a believer in "keeping all criticism in the locker room." This is big-time football, and criticism will come from the media, fans, and of course from the coaches. These players aren't snowflakes - they can handle it.
I loved how Spurrier handled QBs. The fact that he benched, for a short time, a future Heisman winner just says it all. And he wasn't shy about it. Injury? no. Wasn't performing; wasn't doing what I told him to do. And guess what, I don't remember a single on breaking down into tears. I do remember their performance getting better.

With that being said, I think it's ok for a coach to publicly critcize a player. Hell, sometimes the best way to handle it. However, that decision should be on a case by case basis and the HC better both know the player and his mentality very well and have a good relationship as an "educator" with him.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11195 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 3:01 pm to
Sounds good. Just make sure you come up with new material throughout the year. Nothing worse than stale stuff that everyone's heard a few times before. Obviously, you can play the classics a few times, but just mix them in with the new material. Trust me. Good live comedy is the opposite of good live music. Nobody wants the band to try out songs from their NEW album, and nobody wants comedians to tell jokes from their OLD album.

Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32875 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 3:13 pm to
He knows exactly why Les was fired, you think he's gonna do the same shite?
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
15941 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 3:19 pm to
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Nah, it's just you like Ed Orgeron so you assign a positive value to that behavior . Miles did that and he was throwing players under the bus and passing the buck because it's the coach's responsibility to have the players ready to perform . It's all perception designed to fit the pro Orgeron agenda.


You were probably one of those knuckleheads at halftime of a game that actually believed miles when he said they were gonna change some things in the second half
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17492 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 3:21 pm to
But it is bad when CPM holds his players accountable though right?
Posted by Thurber
NWLA
Member since Aug 2013
15405 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 3:23 pm to
true. Miles never liked to call out players at all.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:29 pm to
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He's a politician.

Maybe
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He has zero original thought. He's all cliches and good ole baw stories.

Lol. True but thats probably what makes him a good recruiter. Especially in-State where its needed.
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He's on his 3rd "dream job" except with this one it's a recent dream.

WTF r u talking about? This is obviously his true "dream job". Hes from here. Duh.
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He's a fan favorite based on identity politics , which only adds to my overall dislike.

True as shite. Probably got the job because of that too.
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He played the fans and the media with the help of his little fat friend.

Ehhh. Probably. Maybe its for the best.
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This dude is a fraud. He's not genuine.

FALSE.
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There is a reason Edwin Edwards was elected 4 times in this state.

LOL. Touche'
This post was edited on 9/6/17 at 4:30 pm
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
44024 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:33 pm to
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It's only throwing players under the bus if you lose moron


Well, they both have about the same winning percentage at LSU, so which is which?

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O never threw people under the bus in a loss.


If you're talking about specific games, I find that both guys tend not to blame players but themselves. I recall Miles often defending players and I expect O to do the same. It's part of what being a players coach is. I think both bring up issues primarily to motivate specific players, but I may be wrong.

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Big difference between O and Miles


IMO it is primarily that one followed a coach who continued the elevation of the team that his predecessor had started (though that predecessor stumbled) and whose performance while at LSU was probably overestimated by a significant portion of the fan base. While the other followed a coach who continued that success though did not truly elevate it (albeit, the opportunity to do so was less) and whose performance while at LSU was probably underestimated by a significant portion of the fan base. If Saban does not go end up at Bama, Les Miles has at least one more NC, quite possibly 2 or 3, that is my belief.

I couldn't actually care less about any differences, though. I just want the Tigers to win.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:43 pm to
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While I like what I see from O so far, I think he is overly critical of Etling with no sense of confidence to balance it out.


I dont really see that but Ill ride with it.

Some people need to be challenged. When challenged they drive themselves hard to impress their mentors. They want appreciation and adulation from their superiors and will stop at nothing to get that even in the face of those same people shitting on them. In fact, its the shitting that drives them. If you push them they push back harder. These are hard heads that want to prove a point and if you handle them with kid gloves they wont excel or gain your respect because they see kids gloves as being weak.

The other type needs kids gloves. They get down on themselves when their superiors cut them down. They want praise but their spirit is broken when they dont get it. Being hard on these types causes them to withdraw. These types need constant praise in order to succeed. It lifts them up and gives them confidence.

I think the real difference between the two types is that the former has confidence and is looking to prove it. Tell them they cant and they will. The latter lacks confidence and needs a pat on the back. Give them a boost and they will climb to the mountain top.

CEO seems to know which players are what type.
Posted by KennabraTiger
Kenner, LA
Member since Sep 2013
7720 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:49 pm to
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Yet another anti-Miles thread


It's not an anti-Miles thread. How can we not, as a fan base, compare our current head coach to the former? Nearly everyone did the same shite when Les took over for Saban. It's inevitable
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48098 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 1:02 am to
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There's certainly a distinction to be made between holding players accountable and deflecting responsibility/throwing guys under the bus, but I'm not smart enough to define that across the board. 

In this particular case, I like it and it feels refreshi


fair enough brother
Posted by LSU91MBA
Houston
Member since Aug 2008
1588 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 4:49 am to
Are you referring to Bob Stoops?

Seems like you must be, well except for the 1/9 reference. His team wasn't playing that night.
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