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re: Brian Kelley is 16-6…….

Posted on 11/1/23 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by jsmoke222000
Lake Charles
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 12:32 pm to
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Frogman93


In all seriousness, frick YOU!

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Posted by Frogman93
Member since Jul 2021
1589 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 12:32 pm to
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I'm not complaining. Simply stating facts. BK lost a 5* QB to Ole Miss after making a dumbass video with him. Simply a talking point.

Lemme ask you this, you think BK is the only coaching making silly videos? Have you seen Sabans dumb arse Aflac commercials?
Posted by Frogman93
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 12:34 pm to
Excuse me if I don’t believe you…. Your comments and responses on here don’t exactly paint you as a reasonable or rational person.
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4885 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 12:34 pm to
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Brian Kelly is absolutely not the winningest active coach.
Brian Kelly has 300 on the field wins. Which active coach has more? I mentioned nothing about levels.

My main point still holds.
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 12:49 pm
Posted by jsmoke222000
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2007
6324 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 12:39 pm to
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Would you be happy with LSU losing the next 15 games just so they would get rid of BK????


I'd hate that for LSU. I'd never wish for them to lose just to get rid of BK. I wish he wasn't here, I wish he was never hired in the 1st place. But he is here & I've got to sit back & watch it play out.

My honest opinion is as follows:

I think Brian Kelly will end up with a Les Miles like career @ LSU. He will win some games, he will lose some games & in the end he will most likely win more than he loses. But what will he do the games that matter, the top 10 matchups, the playoffs & the championships? I think he will underachieve in the biggest games on the biggest stages. For the sake of LSU, I hope that I am wrong, but history has a tendency to repeat itself.

34-34 vs top 25 & 4-11 vs top 10 @ notre dame.......
Posted by Frogman93
Member since Jul 2021
1589 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 12:41 pm to
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For the sake of LSU, I hope that I am wrong, but history has a tendency to repeat itself.

No you don’t.
Also that’s more of a Notre Dame problem and their restrictions than it’s on BK.
Posted by TigerFan91
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 12:43 pm to
Yea that’s all a bunch of bullshite. That’s what that guy wants to happen more than what he thinks will happen
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 12:43 pm
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4885 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 12:45 pm to
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I don't like the guy, plain & simple.
I see why now. Stick with that reasoning, no one will object.
Posted by jsmoke222000
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2007
6324 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 12:58 pm to
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Brian Kelly has 300 on the filed wins. Which active coach has more? I mentioned nothing about levels.


Really?

Kelly's record in 13 years at Grand Valley State was 118–35–2
Kelly's record at Central Michigan in three seasons was 19–16
Kelly finished his tenure at Cincinnati with a 34–6 record
Kelly finished his tenure at Notre Dame with a 92–39 record
Kelly is currently 16-6 @ LSU

118+19+34+92+16= 279 total wins in his head coaching career.

Nick Saban 287–70–1 (college) + 15–17 (NFL) = 302 total wins in his head coaching career.



This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 1:19 pm
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
10378 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:22 pm to
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Are you sayin BK should win it every year???



How about win it once?
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:26 pm to
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How about win it once?




He's been here a year and a half.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
14901 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:55 pm to
I’ll ask again, in your immense wisdom, who should LSU have hired that was better after Orgeron?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68675 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:15 pm to
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Kelly finished his tenure at Notre Dame with a 92–39 record


Actually, he had 113 wins at Notre Dame. They vacated some wins early in his career due to a academic scandal.
Posted by 3rdPart Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
6583 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:21 pm to
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BK lost a 5* QB to Ole Miss after making a dumbass video with him.


Posted by jsmoke222000
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2007
6324 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:23 pm to
I would have preferred a younger head coach. Think Saban coming here from Michigan State. He was a nobody before he got here. Now he is the greatest coach in college history. You will never get that from a 62 year old man. He will not be here 20+ years, that's what I'm trying to say.

I do not have an answer as to what particular person could have come here & provided that type of longevity.

I wanted Dave Aranda initially. Would he have been better? Nobody can answer that because we will simply never know. I just wanted someone younger than BK.

All of BK's baggage aside, he has absolutely under performed in big games. His record @ ND vs top 25 & top 10 competition speaks for itself. I understand that ND has recruiting and admission restrictions. But if Nick saban went to ND after he left the dolphins, I do believe that they would have multiple nattys by now.

I did not want to hire saban back after they canned Ed. Saban is past his prime & will retire sooner rather than later. I was hoping to hire the next Saban to avoid another coaching search in 5 or 6 years. I was hoping for a long term coach. Think Bobby Bowden @ FSU or Frank Beamer @ Virginia Tech.

Lincoln Riley was always an option but his teams always had horrible defenses. Honestly, I think he could have overcome that here with an elite DC, but we will never know what have could have been with him either.

I'm not saying that Aranda or Riley would have been better, would win more games or would have gotten a natty. But they were both decades younger & could have been here for a longer period of time if they panned out.

Sorry if that isn't the answer you were looking for.
Posted by jsmoke222000
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2007
6324 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:32 pm to
Well if we are counting vacated wins, BK has 300 (118 of those wins came from a D2 school)

Here is what it looks like if you remove his D2 wins.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68675 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:33 pm to
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I do not have an answer as to what particular person could have come here & provided that type of longevity.


Shocking.

You don't go out and hire a young, unproven coach when you have a dumpster fire situation on your hands. That often turns into a Willie Taggart-FSU stye mess.

BK was viewed as the safest and best option to rebuild the program and to leave it in the best shape for the next head coach.
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I wanted Dave Aranda initially.


Aranda is a career .500 head coach. You're nitpicking Kelly's record and stumping for a career .500 coach. That isn't logical.

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I was hoping for a long term coach. Think Bobby Bowden @ FSU or Frank Beamer @ Virginia Tech.


This is going to happen less and less. Kirby has discussed retiring already and heavily considered it in 2020. Riley says he likely won't be coaching in ten years.

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Lincoln Riley was always an option but his teams always had horrible defenses. Honestly, I think he could have overcome that here with an elite DC, but we will never know what have could have been with him either.



He has arguably been worse than Kelly at USC, if you consider conference and strength of schedule.

He lost to Tulane last year, you would crucify Kelly if he did that.
Posted by jsmoke222000
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2007
6324 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:34 pm to
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3rdPart Tiger


Yes I am pretty fricking sure that BK made a dumbass video with Walker Howard & he is now @ Ole Miss. Not sure what part I'm missing here...

Losing a guy to another team via the transfer portal still = losing a guy to another school, does it not?
Posted by 3rdPart Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
6583 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:44 pm to
Gotcha.

So you're just being dishonest to prove a point.

It's not Kelly's fault Howard didn't want to sit behind Daniels and Nuss.
Posted by jsmoke222000
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2007
6324 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:45 pm to
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SidewalkTiger


Obviously you spoke with Scott Woodward about the plans for the program before he made the hire. My bad, I didn't realize yall were cool like that.

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You don't go out and hire a young, unproven coach when you have a dumpster fire situation on your hands.


Nick Sabans record was 43-26-1 when he came to LSU. .614% Dinardo left a dumpster fire when he left going 4-7 & 3-8 in his last 2 seasons & a young Nick Saban fixed it. I was simply hoping for the same type of hire. With no risk, there is no reward.

I'll just agree to disagree with you.
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