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re: Can the optimistic folks tell me why LSU will be much better
Posted on 11/30/09 at 5:47 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
Posted on 11/30/09 at 5:47 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
I think you will see a slow but steady infiltration of the great players from this past year's class(shep's)..
Brockers, Downs, Davenport, Montgomery,(maybe logan)should all make an impact this next year or in 2011. Loston is a headhunter safety, and hopefully he transitions to SEC play like he did in H/S. Minter, Mingo,etc. are good linebackers..tackling machines..
Shepard, Randle and Ford will probably be very big peices to our offense this next year..
Point being, we still have a LOT of talent, albeit young, and just don't be surprised if you see some young guys making some plays for us next year
I'm not saying we'll be better, but if JJ is better, i think the whole team will be. Oh, and a new OC
Brockers, Downs, Davenport, Montgomery,(maybe logan)should all make an impact this next year or in 2011. Loston is a headhunter safety, and hopefully he transitions to SEC play like he did in H/S. Minter, Mingo,etc. are good linebackers..tackling machines..
Shepard, Randle and Ford will probably be very big peices to our offense this next year..
Point being, we still have a LOT of talent, albeit young, and just don't be surprised if you see some young guys making some plays for us next year
I'm not saying we'll be better, but if JJ is better, i think the whole team will be. Oh, and a new OC
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 5:48 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
points-we need more period. Who makes points? qb.
qb development-without it were are like tigers without teeth. Talent without execution ain't jack in football (we proved this). The line will come together with instruction...and execution. So will qb.
Better times are coming (I hope).
qb development-without it were are like tigers without teeth. Talent without execution ain't jack in football (we proved this). The line will come together with instruction...and execution. So will qb.
Better times are coming (I hope).
Posted on 11/30/09 at 5:51 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
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(with guys that weren't good enough to play much on this year's shitty OL
theoretically, college guys get better as the years go by...at this point I'm really only concerned about LT and replacing Coleman as far as potential drop-offs, and Ciron really wasn't special this year.
Posted on 11/30/09 at 5:51 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
OK, much of how i feel can be called optimism. bottom line to me is that if we have some new coaches on O, we will be better. as just about EVERYONE on here states quite frequently, we have some talent. we need improved coaching big time; better blocking, quicker developing plays, changing the plays we ALWAYS run with the same personell packages, different formations (look what our unbalanced line accomplished against arky). also, it doesn't seem that we pull our guards, much less the center, so they can lead the point of attact along with a TE on the perimeter. RS had no damn blocking to the outside, much less the inside. our plays to the perimeter were getting sniffed out and the runner was getting hit behing the line with 3 or 4 other defenders closing in. no RB, WR, etc can excell with that crap going on. so, better coaching and play calling = better offense next year. better offense = better team.
Posted on 11/30/09 at 6:08 pm to LSU GrandDad
Jefferson should be much improved. At 10&5 he's way better than most posters think.
Posted on 11/30/09 at 6:15 pm to AlexLSU
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Randle may have a ton of talent and ability, but a sophomore Randle isn't better than a senior LaFell.
him being better isn't really the point...the key is randle/toliver, along with a more experienced JJ, should be more effective than toliver/lafell were this year
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To say that Ridley is every bit as good as Keiland, Charles, and Trindon is retarded. Completely false.
again...comparing ability misses the point. the running game was totally ineffective this year...I don't see it being a downgrade next year, so it will either still suck, or it will be improved
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D Line will be better.
Based off of what? What is going to make it better?
Alem and Woods' replacements will be a wash, at a minimum, in my opinion.
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Again, completely retarded. We lose Riley, Cutrera, and Coleman, yet we're BETTER?
LB is a concern, especially Coleman's position.
Posted on 11/30/09 at 6:22 pm to ForeLSU
I don't expect LSU to be much better next year.
I expect three losses.
I expect three losses.
Posted on 11/30/09 at 6:28 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
I really feel like when given time to throw the ball that JJ will become a very good quarterback. The poor guy this year never seems to have time to throw the ball and that leads to a lot of sacks. It seems like every time(or at least the required number of times that you can ask a qb to) that he went back to pass though and we gave him time, he made a smart/good pass to the receivers.
Posted on 11/30/09 at 7:05 pm to ForeLSU
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LB is a concern, especially Coleman's position.
Coleman is a concern, but we have quite a few 'tweeners' that could play.
IMO Riley and Cutrera are just average at best.
KS made amazing progress this year, his improvement along with Baker coming along leave a gap of Coleman. Like I said, we are rich in playmaking DBs that could fit the mold of Coleman. Hatcher may be a great fit there. at 6 foot 2 and already over 200 who knows.
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Randle may have a ton of talent and ability, but a sophomore Randle isn't better than a senior LaFell.
Possibly not, but a Senior Toliver is better than a Senior Lafell, and a Soph Randle is better than a Jr Toliver.
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again...comparing ability misses the point. the running game was totally ineffective this year...
Ridley did everything that the other two did when given the chance, I dont see a drop off.
Posted on 11/30/09 at 7:12 pm to AlexLSU
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To say that Ridley is every bit as good as Keiland, Charles, and Trindon is retarded. Completely false.
Tell me where there was a drop off between Ridley and Scott and Williams THIS year? Also, sub the Trindon packages with Shepard, IMO this is wash. Please, please explain the HUGE difference that would make this RETARDED.
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sophomore Randle isn't better than a senior LaFell.
No but a senior Toliver is better than Lafell, and Randle will be better than Toliver this year. Definitely not a much of a difference.
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Based off of what? What is going to make it better?
We lose Alem and Woods and ALexander, all virtually non existent. Can you please detail how what is behind them is not equal. Even if they are awful, they will make the same number of plays these three did.
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Again, completely retarded. We lose Riley, Cutrera,
What did these two do that makes them even close to irreplaceable. Hell, there is plenty argument that Baker is better THIS year, Sheppard will only be better, which is scary..cause he just improved leaps and bounds.
IMO Coleman creates a bit of trouble to replace, but we have quite a few fast big tweeners to look at.
So how is replacing two pretty average players RETARDED.
Folks act like we dont have replacements. Aside from Lafell I dont think we have that many HUGE gaps left behind.
Posted on 11/30/09 at 8:41 pm to tigerfoot
If Miles says we have the want to be better next year we will. That is all that needs to be done. 
Posted on 11/30/09 at 9:19 pm to Cheetah Flex
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You do realize that this guy was the top ranked wideout and nearly PLAYER coming out of H/S, right? He's not just another receiver.
You do realize that Russell Shepard was the top ranked dual threat QB last year and is now a RB, don't you? You do realize that Chris Davenport was a 5* DT and is redshirting, don't you?
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He has great talent, and to me, will be better than LaFell NEXT YEAR..Yes bold statement, homerism,p&g glasses I BELIEVE THAT shite
At least you admit it.
Posted on 11/30/09 at 9:23 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
Replacing DL that is soft could be an improvement. 
Posted on 11/30/09 at 9:27 pm to ForeLSU
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him being better isn't really the point...the key is randle/toliver, along with a more experienced JJ, should be more effective than toliver/lafell were this year
Toliver, Randle, and an unestablished 3rd WR is not better than LaFell, Toliver, and Randle. We downgrade slightly at TE and will have a relatively inexperienced guy without Randle talent at the 3rd WR. No reason to think we'll be better there by losing an All-SEC WR.
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again...comparing ability misses the point. the running game was totally ineffective this year...I don't see it being a downgrade next year, so it will either still suck, or it will be improved
How does it miss the point? You replace three experienced backs with one decently experienced back. Even if the yardage does improve, that doesn't take into account the fact that LSU will have less depth and will not have as much diversity in the running game. If Ridley, Murphy, and Ford get hurt, we won't have a Ridley next year to carry the load.
ETA: And he is CLEARLY saying that we will be BETTER at these positions, so yeah, it really is the point.
This post was edited on 11/30/09 at 9:28 pm
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