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Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:29 pm to BayouBengals18
I guess Canada's god awful scheme against MSU was on O too right? I would have stepped in too after the biggest loss to MSU...in the history of the program.
That was all on Canada yet you guys bash O for it.
That was all on Canada yet you guys bash O for it.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:33 pm to BDJ
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I guess Canada's god awful scheme against MSU was on O too right?
WHO...HIRED...CANADA?
Unless you're suggesting that Canada was running something entirely different at PITT and prior and he baited and switched poor Ed into hiring him only to change into his "awful scheme" at the beginning of the season at LSU...aren't you saying that Orgeron hired a guy with a shitty scheme?
Why did he knowingly hire a guy with a shitty scheme? Seems...I don't know...dumb?
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:37 pm to GeauxTigerTM
Canada did hoodwink him lol.
Go re-watch Canada's presser. He stated over and over and over again he would change his scheme to fit the players.
He didn't change shite lol. It was the same exact scheme he ran at every other school he was at. Thats why O told him to get fricked. By game 2, you knew his shite wasn't going to work.
Go re-watch Canada's presser. He stated over and over and over again he would change his scheme to fit the players.
He didn't change shite lol. It was the same exact scheme he ran at every other school he was at. Thats why O told him to get fricked. By game 2, you knew his shite wasn't going to work.
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Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:38 pm to BDJ
And O admitted he meddled and that he shouldn’t have.
I think the actual quote was,”this is Canada’s offense, he’s in charge.” Something to that effect.
O admits he stepped in
So if Canada’s awful scheme was so “awful,” why did O put him back in charge of it?
I think the actual quote was,”this is Canada’s offense, he’s in charge.” Something to that effect.
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LSU turned the ball over four times and went 0-for-9 on third down in its first non-conference home loss in 17 years.
O admits he stepped in
So if Canada’s awful scheme was so “awful,” why did O put him back in charge of it?
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:39 pm to la_birdman
He was forced to by Alleva. Was your question serious?
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:40 pm to Scoob
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Nick Saban is a defensive coach, he doesn't "run" the offense (especially when Kiffin was there). What he does do, is control the tempo and style somewhat... "slow it down some and run some clock, the defense is gassed"; "let's push it deep here, I think they're out of sorts and we have momentum"; stuff like that.
He does not go and say "no, we need to cut these formations and motions out, and line up in a Power I, because I want that instead"; if he does feel like that, he waits until the offseason and changes the staff to one that will do that.
or he chews their arse out on the sidelines and fires them before the national title game. There also has been plenty said on here about not giving Canada personnel autonomy, notably the starting QB position. WHose decision do you think it was to start Hurts all season and make the change a halftime of the NC game? Saban's or Daboll's. What is lost on a lot of people is that we simply don't know the depth that Orgeron "meddled." ll we have is one quote taken after the Troy game and that there was a meeting thereafter. What I actually saw on the field the rest of the year looked like a Canada called offense. We had games where our WRs outrushed our running backs and games where our running backs had more receiving yards than our receivers. But these self-anointed "realists" on here think that because Orgeron intervened in the Troy game means that he changed Canada's offense, which by all empirical evidence did not happen. It simply was just no as effective as people wanted. They wanted someone to blame and were naturally led to Orgeron because they never wanted him in the first place. They aren't realists, they're just looking for justification to support they're pre-conceived notions.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:41 pm to BDJ
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Canada did hoodwink him lol.
Go re-watch Canada's presser. He stated over and over and over again he would change his scheme to fit the players.
He didn't change shite lol. It was the same exact scheme he ran at every other school he was at. Thats why O told him to get fricked. By game 2, you knew his shite wasn't going to work
So...all Spring long as they were installing this...Orgeron was on board, right? Thought it was aces? All Fall...still not a peep out of the HC? Or are you suggesting Orgeron thought it was a bad idea back in the Spring but couldn't get his OC to stop being mean?
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:41 pm to LSUInTheBR
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You can't be that dense.
We're talking about SpaceClownboy. Yes he most certainly can be that dense. This is a guy who claims that o's tenure at Ole Miss wasn't as bad as people on the rant are making it out to be and that he was unjustly fired after his third year with the Rebels or whatever the frick they call themselves these days.
The man went 3-21 in conference play in his three years there and 0-8 in SEC play in year three. I suppose SpaceClownboy thinks he should have been given a fat raise and a contract extension after those productive seasons.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:42 pm to earl keese
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Oh, so we aren't trying to hire the best coordinators in all of college football, we're just trying to give our buddies jobs. Gotcha! Good to know.
Lane Kiffin was both. The fact that he also has a relationship with Orgeron is gravy, but Lane Kiffin is absolutely a great OC
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:43 pm to BDJ
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He was forced to by Alleva. Was your question serious?
So all that stuff about the research he put into the search that led to hiring Canada, that was a lie too?
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:43 pm to Space Cowboy
Yeah, I guess multiple news outlets, including 247, CBS, NBC, Al.com are all making fake news reports about the hire
. As salty as you are being, did Canada frick your old lady?
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:43 pm to BDJ
Forced?
to meddle?
But not forced by Alleva to get or even search for an actual OC. Gotcha.
But not forced by Alleva to get or even search for an actual OC. Gotcha.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:44 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Unless you're suggesting that Canada was running something entirely different at PITT
Canada's one year at Pitt was an outlier in his career. The vast majority of his offenses were averaging right at or below 400 ypg. he had one good year at Pitt and one good year at N Illinois. The rest were no better than what we've been doing with Cam Cameron and the lot.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:45 pm to Goldrush25
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So all that stuff about the research he put into the search that led to hiring Canada, that was a lie too?
According to GeauxstWriter, yes. He's on record here stating that Orgeron did not hire Canada...Alleva did. So yes...all that BS at the presser was just what they told him to go up there and say like a trained monkey.
Or...he hired a guy with a shitty scheme and an attitude that's a cancer to everywhere he goes.
You choose.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:47 pm to lsufball19
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Canada's one year at Pitt was an outlier in his career. The vast majority of his offenses were averaging right at or below 400 ypg. he had one good year at Pitt and one good year at N Illinois. The rest were no better than what we've been doing with Cam Cameron and the lot.
Not what I was saying though, was it? I was referencing his SCHEME, right?
People now want to suggest that Canada brings a terrible SCHEME. Is it or is it NOT the same one he ran at PITT that got him the job at LSU?
If it is...then who is to blame for bringing him and his shitty scheme to Baton Rouge?
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:47 pm to GeauxTigerTM
I can’t believe it’s gotten to this. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:50 pm to la_birdman
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I can’t believe it’s gotten to this. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
We currently live in a world where there are LSU fans arguing IN FAVOR of having hired a man with a sub .500 career coaching record to replace a man that won a National Title at LSU who himself replaced a man with a National Title at LSU.
It's Bizzaro World.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:56 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Not what I was saying though, was it? I was referencing his SCHEME, right?
People now want to suggest that Canada brings a terrible SCHEME. Is it or is it NOT the same one he ran at PITT that got him the job at LSU?
If it is...then who is to blame for bringing him and his shitty scheme to Baton Rouge?
Canada's scheme and what he told us was that he changes his schemes to fit his personnel. So was the pitiful scheme he displayed against Miss State his way of saying our personnel was that bad? Or is it that Canada was blowing smoke as well?
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