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Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:11 pm to
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Yeah, that's an Orgeron quote. You need to huddle with Pomansky and get your talking points straight so that you're all consistent with each other.


No, I need a link.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
72091 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:12 pm to
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He promised that he would let his coaches coach

letting his coaches coach does not also mean he will have no say in anything
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So what's his appeal, his competitive advantage?

I never said I wanted Alleva to hire Orgeron, but I also do not believe in setting unrealistic expectations as to how he should manage the football program either. He's here for better or worse. Bitching about him with the same exact arguments day after day isn't going to change that or make you any happier.
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 3:14 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33961 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:13 pm to
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He promised that he would let his coaches coach


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letting his coaches coach does not also mean he will have no say in anything


So what's the point in saying it? Every coach lets their coaches coach, until they don't.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
72091 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:14 pm to
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So what's the point in saying it? Every coach lets their coaches coach, until they don't.

So what's your complaint here? That head coaches provide lip service to fan bases weekly?
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:15 pm to
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If O didn't meddle as you put it, he'd be the only coach in all of college football not to meddle, you dumb moron.


He’s the only coach in all of college football to be hired by a P5 program with a disastrous losing tenure at another program,

So he SHOULD have to be the only coach in the NCAA who isn’t allowed to meddle.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
32110 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:16 pm to
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If O didn't meddle as you put it, he'd be the only coach in all of college football not to meddle, you dumb moron.




The difference is that O has no idea what to do on offense. Look at the Troy game.


You want more of that?
Posted by LSUInTheBR
Member since Oct 2017
789 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33961 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:19 pm to
My complaint is in Orgeron selling lies to pander to the fanbase.

He didn't come out and say "I'm going to perform my job much in the same manner as every other coach has performed theirs," did he? He attempted to portray himself as different, did he not?
Posted by LSUInTheBR
Member since Oct 2017
789 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:20 pm to
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The only time I heard coach O talk about the kind of offense he wants was last year when he said he preferred a spread offense and a dual-threat QB, and I remember that because Myles decommitted like the next day, then all you O haters immediately went into meltdown mode and blamed O because of what he said.


That’s soooo last recruiting cycle. He has said many times this past fall he wants an offense like they ran @ SC. Stay up to date with your boy, DP.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
72091 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:20 pm to
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So he SHOULD have to be the only coach in the NCAA who isn’t allowed to meddle.


No, Alleva just shouldn't have hired him. But he was hired and if he's the head coach, then he should be afforded all the same responsibilities that every other coach is. You don't hire someone to run a program and then say they're only allowed to do certain things. You're either all in or all out. And we'll see how it all works out. If it doesn't, Orgeron won't be the coach much longer. If it does, then all of the repetitive bitching will be moot.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:21 pm to
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Well I’m sure Coach Miles will be thrilled to hear that you have come around to understanding the difficulties of identifying and developing SEC Championship level QB play now that O is holding the bag.


The problem with Miles is he missed on the misses and on the hits. It didn't matter who he suckered to come to LSU. When they left, they were just as shitty as they were when they arrived.

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2020 ladies and gentlemen.


I'm just saying it, with Tua and those three great freshman receivers, Bama is going to be very hard to beat for the next couple of seasons.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
72091 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:22 pm to
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My complaint is in Orgeron selling lies to pander to the fanbase.

Every coach does this. They tell the fans what they want to hear.
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He didn't come out and say "I'm going to perform my job much in the same manner as every other coach has performed theirs," did he? He attempted to portray himself as different, did he not?

He said what he needed to say to get support. I'm not sure why you're so shocked a head coach would do this. If you're looking for a completely transparent head coach, then you'll never find one.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:22 pm to
If you think Bama won’t just plug and play another Tua after he’s gone, along with every other elite player they have, you haven’t been paying attention.

Suck it up. No excuses. Win or GTFO. If Ed didn’t want the high expectations, he should never have stepped up to the plate.

No argument or excuse you make here or in a press conference or on a radio show is going to mean shite if you don’t win big. No argument anyone tries to make against you will mean shite if you do win big.
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 3:28 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33961 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:25 pm to
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He said what he needed to say to get support. I'm not sure why you're so shocked a head coach would do this. If you're looking for a completely transparent head coach, then you'll never find one.


He can say whatever he wants but the fans aren't out of bounds from holding him to it.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
22118 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:29 pm to
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Bama is going to be very hard to beat for the next couple of seasons.



As opposed to the last 10 years??
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
72091 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:31 pm to
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He can say whatever he wants but the fans aren't out of bounds from holding him to it.

They may not be out of bounds but they can certainly be naive and unrealistic in what they actually expected. As i said, if you actually believed his saying he's going to let his coaches coach meant that he was going to be 100% hands off and go down with the ship if things went south, then I think that is naive. If that was the expectation you personally had, then lesson learned. Expecting a coach to give any assistant 100% autonomy is not realistic. I could give a rats fart what a coach says, because plenty have said they'll let their coaches coach, yet stepped in when an assistant wasn't getting the job done. Our offense flat out was not doing well early this season. Orgeron's seat was warm the day he got hired. He doesn't have the luxury of a rebuilding year and our fans certainly would never have been ok with that. So yes, he felt the pressure after a 37-7 loss and, for better or worse, "meddled"
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 3:34 pm
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:33 pm to
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Just tell me how Aranda, O and E are the best of friends.


I confessed that I lied and made it all up. Aranda is one of the O haters on the rant. What more do you want?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33961 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:37 pm to
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If that was the expectation you personally had, then lesson learned. Expecting a coach to give any assistant 100% autonomy is not realistic.


There's a huge leap between not giving your OC 100% autonomy and changing his offense.
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 3:38 pm
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:37 pm to
I couldn't care less what Rabalais says.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:39 pm to
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That’s soooo last recruiting cycle. He has said many times this past fall he wants an offense like they ran @ SC. Stay up to date with your boy, DP.


Link, please. Your last one was a joke.
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