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Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:28 am to
Posted by CanIPlay636
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:28 am to
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Clemson has 1 all acc olineman.

This has been brought to your attention more than once Ben. Care to comment?
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:32 am to
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Because even shite teams did this ben. When southeastern shuts you down, its scheme.
How many times do you have to be told this


You don't get to tell anybody anything. You also don't get to arbitrarily make assertions based on your own conclusions and state those as facts.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:33 am to
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They’re so tied to the talent excuse that they’re forced to provide that Southeastern is more talented than LSU. It’s remarkable


This is ridiculous
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48098 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:11 am to
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You don't get to tell anybody anything. You also don't get to arbitrarily make assertions based on your own conclusions and state those as facts.



Then how does Southeastern stop us ben? Are we not talented enough to move the ball on Southeastern?

Every team Southeastern played put up more yards and 1st downs than lsu.
Let that sink in Ben. Southland conference teams were able to move the ball on Southeastern better than lsu.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48098 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:13 am to
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This is ridiculous


You and youre defense of a shite scheme is ridiculous.


Its been proven over and over that you cant beat bama WITHOUT SPREADING THEM OUT. What does our OC do? He goes max protect which brings more defenders to the los and gives burrow all of 2 options to pass to.


This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 10:18 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48098 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:14 am to
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How many times did bama sack Trevor


He plays in a scheme that allows him to get the ball out quicker and bama still had 11 qb hurries and 6 tfl.

You dont know anything about football.

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48098 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:16 am to
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Not sure which is worse, this post or 50 dumbass fricks agreeing with you. 
I swear you people are pathetic.



If its not coaching then how does vastly inferior teams stop our offense?

Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:40 am to
“ if you hadn’t”

If you can’t see the difference between a coach with SEC titles, West titles, National championship game appearances, a national title, more over all wins than any other SEC program and now, that’s your problem.

And it wasn’t the offense. It was the passing game. We had one of the strongest rushing games in college football, but we had significant problems with the passing game. If I ever defended that passing game, it should be easy for you to document. Problem now is that even the rush game has gone into the toilet.

Coaches, like in any other business, build up capital with their past success. They can use that capital in bad times. When they use capital up, it’s time for them to go. 2015 was the time for the last staff to go. Unfortunately for LSU, that didn’t happen and we are where we are.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:42 am to
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Not sure which is worse, this post or 50 dumbass fricks agreeing with you.
I swear you people are pathetic.

Yes, the majority of people who pay attention agree that scheme / coaching is the biggest issue.

After 9 years of LSU failing to win at the level it ought to based solely on its offensive ineptitude, I'm surprised there are some who disagree, honestly.

Yes, LSU had a weak OL. You dial up quick passes, WR screens or gadget plays to mitigate that. You utilize quick, silent or hard counts to screw with the DL's timing.

Or do none of that, get slaughtered at home against Alabama and then watch fans blame players rather than admit their coaches botched it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:42 am to
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If you can’t see the difference between a coach with SEC titles, West titles, National championship game appearances, a national title, more over all wins than any other SEC program and now, that’s your problem.


Well in a non title season when the offense was terrible you still defended.

Those seasons had nothing to do with championships.
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4387 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:54 am to
you dont have to be scared when the sec management has your back ! I find you to be a pathic head runner Trev rollins you dont have a bama lineman holding you like the sec teams !
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4387 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:56 am to
Rollilns if you dont like a reason that doesn't automaticly make it an excuse !
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:12 am to
“ when the offense was terrible”

In 2015 the LSU total offense ranked 4th in the SEC. I hardly think that equates to terrible. Now, the LSU passing game probably could qualify as terrible and that’s one of the reasons I supported bringing in Jimbo. An offensive guy to fix an offensive problem.

You want to tell me where the LSU offense ranks in the SEC three years later?

The passing game for LSU has been a significant limitation to our offense since 2013. I didn’t mind seeing miles go. I had hoped that when he went, he would take the passing problems with him. That hasn’t seem to be the case to this point in time.
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:23 am to
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You and youre defense of a shite scheme is ridiculous



I'm not defending the scheme. The offensive line had serious problems this season and I'm simply trying to identify those problems. You, however, have an agenda so you try to either ignore those or minimize them so you can denigrate the coaching staff.

Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:10 pm to
If you can’t see the diff between LSUs offensive philosophy and identity now vs when miles was here I don’t know what to tell you.
He’ll even Saban acknowledged it.

Our biggest problem this year was
1)below avg Oline play
2)youth and inexperience pretty much all across field.

Both of which won’t be factor next season.
The “excuses” won’t be available next season.
It’s time for E to show us what he can do.
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 1:48 pm
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34214 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:26 pm to
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Yes, the majority of people who pay attention agree that scheme / coaching is the biggest issue.

After 9 years of LSU failing to win at the level it ought to based solely on its offensive ineptitude, I'm surprised there are some who disagree, honestly.

Yes, LSU had a weak OL. You dial up quick passes, WR screens or gadget plays to mitigate that. You utilize quick, silent or hard counts to screw with the DL's timing.

Or do none of that, get slaughtered at home against Alabama and then watch fans blame players rather than admit their coaches botched it.


Somebody who gets it. But O threw the players under the bus instead of blaming Slinger.
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:32 pm to
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Yes, LSU had a weak OL. You dial up quick passes, WR screens or gadget plays to mitigate that. You utilize quick, silent or hard counts to screw with the DL's timing.

Or do none of that, get slaughtered at home against Alabama and then watch fans blame players rather than admit their coaches botched it.



It's like you don't realize that the coaches tried other things.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42186 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:00 pm to
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Yes, the majority of people who pay attention agree that scheme / coaching is the biggest issue.

The O we ran the last two seasons was different than the O Miles ran.
quote:

After 9 years of LSU failing to win at the level it ought to based solely on its offensive ineptitude, I'm surprised there are some who disagree, honestly.


8 years ago we went 13-1.
In Mett's senior year our D killed us. Our O was good.

We had problems, but all were not on O.

quote:


Yes, LSU had a weak OL. You dial up quick passes, WR screens or gadget plays to mitigate that. You utilize quick, silent or hard counts to screw with the DL's timing.


But you omit the fact our rushing total fell thirty yards ago and we barely got four yards a carry our worst rushing year since 2009.

It's not just the pass game. You have to run the ball too, and despite all the criticism here, our passing O was higher this year despite almost an entire new lineup.

We had way more issues than just the OC.

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Or do none of that, get slaughtered at home against Alabama and then watch fans blame players rather than admit their coaches botched it.

I watched Bama slaughter us at home in 2002. We lost 31-0.
I guess you thought it was all on Saban and Jimbo, right?

The truth is one game never defines a program or a coach.
Posted by theliontamer
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
1912 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:10 pm to
Exactly. Once they settled their offense (after Syracuse game), this team beat every opponent by 3+ TDs.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:15 pm to
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It's like you don't realize that the coaches tried other things.



They tried bad ideas, then switched to worse ideas.
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