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Posted on 12/17/17 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78706 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 2:48 pm to
That’s great

That’s not better than most years with Les.

So why is O better?
Posted by tiogatiger19
tioga, la
Member since Aug 2005
1513 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 2:53 pm to
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No We we’re willing to accept Les not being fired if he could get out the offenses way 

Not everyone gets that deal. 

Les has a ring and over 100 wins. 

O has dick. 

We fired Lea to do BETTER than Les. Have we gotten that?


So what your saying is Les can be successful by letting his cordinators coach and staying out the way but O can't be successful doing that because miles won a championship 10 years ago? Or are you saying you won't accept any success O has by doing it because he didn't win 10 years ago?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78706 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 2:59 pm to
I am Saying it’s not an ideal situation and probably only acceptable for a beloved head coach at the end of a career.

Because your sure at the point the can recruit and manange a team and a staff and motivate players

I am Not sure about any of that for O, and I think we should have aimed to do something better than this situation.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29952 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

quote:
They had 180 yds in the second half and 363 for the game. 202 in the ground with a TOP of 34 min.


That is bad defense.



Well, aren’t you a little smartie for not posting the THREE (3) TURNOVERS in the second half by the OFFENSE giving Troy a short field and more offensive opportunities.
But Whatever makes you happy.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

It got LSU a bowl game against Notre Dame with a chance to finish in the top 10.


This is true. Thank God that LSU's 9 wins this season came against opponents that had a combined winning percentage of 43%.
Posted by tiogatiger19
tioga, la
Member since Aug 2005
1513 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:06 pm to
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I am Not sure about any of that for O, and I think we should have aimed to do something better than this situation.





No argument from me there. I agree, but he is who we have and I believe this method could work. Cam O make it work? Idk, next year is the deciding year imo
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
15837 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:07 pm to
while CLM cooked his own goose, to proclaim O as a better coach is pure lack of common sense much less football IQ.

LSU accomplished what it did this year in spite of O not because of him.

There is not one specific thing that O has done alone to merit the greatness some have bestowed on him.

It is all Aranda, Canada an players with talent.
Posted by cj2002
louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
2034 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:10 pm to
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Les did pretty well against Saban with inferior talent until 2011


Saban 1st year at bama was 07, and Miles got a team from the best coach in college football history in 05 and Saban beat him in only his 2nd year 08.

Miles couldn't hold Sabans jock.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:18 pm to
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Well, aren’t you a little smartie for not posting the THREE (3) TURNOVERS in the second half by the OFFENSE


Are you making excuses for the Troy loss? Sounds like it. I thought you were trying to blame the head coach for the loss.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:19 pm to
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This is true. Thank God that LSU's 9 wins this season came against opponents that had a combined winning percentage of 43%.


If LSU got to choose the schedule and was winning by a couple/few points in those games I could see the concern.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

LSU accomplished what it did this year in spite of O not because of him.


Stupid statement is stupid.

quote:

There is not one specific thing that O has done alone to merit the greatness some have bestowed on him


You didn't read the thread, did you?

quote:

It is all Aranda, Canada an players with talent


That's what I say. Seems like everyone besides you and I want to somehow blame only the losses on the head coach.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62689 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:25 pm to
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4 of the first 6 games without Les we broke 4 offensive records.


Against teams that had no run defense. And we did it with Les's players and running his offensive system.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62689 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:26 pm to
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I believe this method could work.



What makes you think so?
Posted by tiogatiger19
tioga, la
Member since Aug 2005
1513 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

What makes you think so?






Would it have worked for Miles? Did Miles simply just need to leave the OC alone?

Dabo would be the best example of how the method could work.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

If LSU got to choose the schedule and was winning by a couple/few points in those games I could see the concern.


We all realize that you play the teams that are on your schedule, no matter if they are good teams, average teams or lousy teams. It just so happened that this years schedule was loaded with lousy teams.

LSU only beat 2 teams with winning records, one team that played 500 ball and none of the rest won more than 4 games. This isn't LSU's fault, just luck of the draw.

The point that most people with any hesitation of o being the head coach have, is that even though 9-3 at the end of the regular season looks decent, when you look at how bad most of the teams we beat are, is that 9-3 record really that good. That's why a lot of people have a wait and see attitude. At least that's where I'm at so far.

Now I know you're one of the biggest o cheerleaders on the rant, so I really don't expect you to even remotely agree with anything I said. There are some of us that haven't brought into o yet and aren't ready to beat the o drum like you do.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
26203 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:55 pm to
FFS... lets give O one contract term to prove himself. I don't understand why this is that difficult. Fire Alleva so that we can have a competent coaching search if we aren't happy after year 3.


Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62689 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

Would it have worked for Miles?


Probably not.

quote:

Did Miles simply just need to leave the OC alone?



No.

quote:

Dabo would be the best example of how the method could work.



Speculation. You have no clue as to his administrative methods.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216343 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

LSU only beat 2 teams with winning records, one team that played 500 ball and none of the rest won more than 4 games. This isn't LSU's fault, just luck of the draw.



There ya go////////
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62689 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

FFS... lets give O one contract term to prove himself. I don't understand why this is that difficult.


What do you mean by "difficult"? I don't think anyone is saying to fire him now. Some of us are just worried about the potential damage that could be done with this little experiment.
Posted by tiogatiger19
tioga, la
Member since Aug 2005
1513 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 4:05 pm to
Lol ok your impossible. Melt on
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