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Posted on 1/24/09 at 10:29 am to
Posted by specs1
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Posted on 1/24/09 at 10:29 am to
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is a real class guy and tribute to LSU


I'm not sure the Louisiana State Police would agree w/ that.

Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
37242 posts
Posted on 1/24/09 at 10:54 am to
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I'm not sure the Louisiana State Police would agree w/ that


Ya gonna leave us hanging?
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79365 posts
Posted on 1/24/09 at 10:56 am to
The media is not concerned with the truth and whats right unless the truth serves their agenda and if the truth does not serve them they will either ignore the truth and move on or "create" a story that will fit their agenda...
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 1/24/09 at 11:08 am to
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Dale regardless of your opinion of him as a coach, is a real class guy and tribute to LSU.


Along with the Pistol he made LSU basketball relevant enough to regroup after down years and it's really looking like TJ will continue that legacy after JB sort of stutter-stepped through a decade with more ups than downs. I had the privilege of meeting Coach Brown at the beginning of his tenure in Baton Rouge and above all else he is a solid citizen who cares about his fellow man. He usually makes the big games like the one tonight.
Posted by LSUBASEBALL06
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
3407 posts
Posted on 1/24/09 at 11:10 am to
Dale has season tickets.(I'm sure he didnt pay for those but...) He sits in the same seat every home game. About Midcourt, 2nd or 3rd row.

He hasnt missed one yet this season and he didnt miss many last season.
This post was edited on 1/24/09 at 11:11 am
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11345 posts
Posted on 1/24/09 at 11:15 am to
Dale Brown will be treated with the respect and adorartion he deserves. He put LSU BB on the map.
Posted by tiger20
Member since Dec 2004
5508 posts
Posted on 1/24/09 at 12:40 pm to
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Dale has season tickets.(I'm sure he didnt pay for those but...) He sits in the same seat every home game. About Midcourt, 2nd or 3rd row.

He hasnt missed one yet this season and he didnt miss many last season


Those were the seats his wife Vonnie and daughter Robin and her husband always sat in when he was coaching. It is irelevant whether he pays for them. Dale Brown contributed far more positive attention on LSU and th evalue of the seats is irrelevant. I hope the university has endowed those seats to the Brown family.
Posted by tiger20
Member since Dec 2004
5508 posts
Posted on 1/24/09 at 12:42 pm to
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Ya gonna leave us hanging?


Dale and Johnny Jones were stopped for speeding on the Atchafalaya Thruway while on a recruiting trip. They tried to use their positions to convince the trooper not to write a ticket to whoever was driving.
Posted by specs1
Member since Dec 2005
10015 posts
Posted on 1/24/09 at 12:45 pm to
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Ya gonna leave us hanging?


You don't remember the incident where DB was stopped and went nuts on a state trooper, started banging on the troopers car, and asking don't you know who I am.

There were actually two incidents in the last year of his time at LSU. In fact it was soon after that incident that he gave his infamous press conference where he announced his retirement.

There was much speculation that Dale would have to be fired after the State Trooper Incident. But they worked out a retirement instead.

Posted by tiger20
Member since Dec 2004
5508 posts
Posted on 1/24/09 at 12:46 pm to
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Why as well would not the Baton Rouge press have gone after Roy Williams and the NCAA when complicity in the Earl affair became evident? How Williams as a culprit goes untarnished, while Brown a victim gets sullied is beyond me. Adding insult to injury, for 10yrs John Brady diss'd Dale for the Earl fiasco and probation. He even did it in his final press conference. The man wasn't fit to carry Dale Brown's water. The press carried nearly every word. When Lester Earl came clean . . . . crickets. Ahhh, yes, the prestige of modern US journalism once again manifested.


I agree Roy Williams' part in the Lester Earl fiasco was ignored by the NCAA and the press. There was tampering in Hawaii and the NCAA should not have given Earl carte blanche immunity to force an immature young man to stretch a story. If there was any guilt for payments to Earl it was on a booster not Brown or Johnny Jones.
Posted by tiger20
Member since Dec 2004
5508 posts
Posted on 1/24/09 at 12:52 pm to
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Trent is handling it well, much better than Brady. I don't know that Dale can really help the program all that much but he can sure hurt it.

Brady included Dale is some stuff early on. I went to a couple of 6th man club deals where he invited him in introduced him, praised him (to the extent that Brady can praise) and let him speak. But butt kissing just ain't Brady's way. What you see is what you get with Brady and that's an acerbic, cranky fellow.

Trent's smart enough and in control enough to handle Dale and CT2 the right way...something Brady did not and it hurt him.


Brady never made disparaging comments about Dale Brown. He often praised him for his contributions and his impact on bringing LSU into national prominence.

He did convey the impact tht draconian sanctions had on efforts to build a program. He never criticized Brown or Johnny Jones. He simply made a straight forward assertion that they were placed in an extremely difficult bind of trying to recruit against alegacy oflosing for six straight years and then having their official visits cut in half and being limited to two less scholarships than usual for three straight season. There were also restrictions on signings over atwo year span at that time.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18205 posts
Posted on 1/24/09 at 12:54 pm to
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You don't remember the incident where DB was stopped and went nuts on a state trooper, started banging on the troopers car, and asking don't you know who I am.


I know I said I'd back off, but I forgot about that one. Dale was goose-stepping and shouting "Heil Hitler" and had to be dragged to the car by Jones.

I think Dale denied much of it but I don't think it's hard for any LSU hoops fan of that era to see him doing exactly that.

He used to make alot of comparisons to Nazi's and the Gestapo which never really sat too well with me.

I also remember the football and hoops team had a little altercation at Broussard and Dale and Curley got into it. He told Curley to control his team and called one of the female campus cops a Butch.

But yes, he has done a whole lot of good for alot of needy folks. And I think he is genuine in all of that.

One thing for sure, things were never boring under Dale.
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 1/24/09 at 12:54 pm to
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There was much speculation that Dale would have to be fired after the State Trooper Incident. But they worked out a retirement instead.

No denying Dale was under tremendous strain with the downward trend of the program that began with Randy Livingston's unfortunate injury on through the LE debacle. Still , he brought many more positives for the program and the state than negatives.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18205 posts
Posted on 1/24/09 at 12:58 pm to
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Brady never made disparaging comments about Dale Brown


Brady did not retain a long-time team manager (who may have been a bit mentally challenged, but I could be wrong) and that never sat well with the Dale crowd.

And while I agree Brady never publicly disparaged Dale to my knowledge, I think some wanted him to bring Dale in, kill the fatted calf, put the finest robes for him and have a feast. Well, that's not Brady.
Posted by specs1
Member since Dec 2005
10015 posts
Posted on 1/24/09 at 1:02 pm to
Here's a couple of links:

LINK


LINK


If you want further evidence of Dale Brown's nice guyness, check items related to the recruiting of John Williams, Tito Horford, Lester Earl. You can also attribute LSU's probation in basketball to Dale Brown in solido!



This dude was not mentally stable, and was also not a good coach:

Transcript from DB press confrenence where he responded to a question after a whipping by Kentucky, and asked the reporter if he masturbates.

LINK
Posted by los angeles tiger
1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2003
55976 posts
Posted on 1/24/09 at 1:03 pm to
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Brown was great for LSU basketball. Now that we know the Lester Earl fiasco was a sham, and have seen the classy way Brown comported himself in the aftermath including during Earl's admissions of duplicity, why wouldn't he get standing O's where ever he appears on campus?


I agree. The NCAA should be disbanded. The travesty of this combined with all the violations that happen at a school in Los Angeles that they just can't seem to punish is reason enough.
Posted by specs1
Member since Dec 2005
10015 posts
Posted on 1/24/09 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

Brown was great for LSU basketball. Now that we know the Lester Earl fiasco was a sham, and have seen the classy way Brown comported himself in the aftermath including during Earl's admissions of duplicity, why wouldn't he get standing O's where ever he appears on campus?


What was the deal w/ the Ron Abernathy, LAX Airport w/ suitcase full of cash, in recruitment of John Williams?

What was the deal w/ Tito Horford recruitment?
Posted by specs1
Member since Dec 2005
10015 posts
Posted on 1/24/09 at 1:09 pm to
"I was worried about losing until I looked down the floor and saw Dale Brown. Then I knew we had a chance."

Bob Knight
Posted by tiger20
Member since Dec 2004
5508 posts
Posted on 1/24/09 at 1:11 pm to
Dale Brown was unquestionably a controversial figure. He was also the second winningest coach in SEC history who bulit a program which challenged mighty Kentucky for over a decasde.

You can choose to highlight the negatives, but it would take a hell of a lot longer to describe the positives.
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 1/24/09 at 1:14 pm to
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This dude was not mentally stable, and was also not a good coach:

Dr./Coach specs you should sell those opinions for what you think they're worth. Make millions.
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