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re: Dave Aranda or Lane Kiffin?
Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:29 am to TheCaterpillar
Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:29 am to TheCaterpillar
Yes certainly not a build it coach.
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Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:33 am to JPLSU1981
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I'll also throw this out there... there's no question in my mind that the LSU fan base is divided right now. Divided and broken. Our next HC needs to find a way to bring everyone back together (admin, fans, team, media), and I'm not sure Kiffin - one of the most polarizing figures in CFB - is necessarily the right person to do that.
Winning
Not some big mystery here
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 10:40 am
Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:39 am to Easternrio
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I’d take Aranda in a heartbeat. Kirby seems to be starting out ok with his first gig.
I second this. We already know what Kiffin is. We don't want him here. Trust me..................
Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:41 am to BK785
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He was more successful than Orgeron when LSU hired him.
Agreed but I don't think that should be where we set the bar. "Better than Orgeron" isn't good enough.
And it's probably arguable that he actually was more successful than Orgeron. Kiffin was 3-2 when he got fired after losing to Wash. St., barely beating Utah St. and then getting a 60-burger hung on them at Ariz. St. Then when O took over, the team rebounded and finished 7-2 the rest of the way.
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:55 am to OKTGR580
Aranda and it isn't close. Character has to be an important variable when evaluating a head coach candidate and Kiffin's is questionable at best.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 11:08 am to OKTGR580
quote:By saying that, I meant Aranda. He's an unknown commodity as a head coach, but a hot prospect.
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I'd rather take a chance on an unknown but hot prospect,
The market is not as good as everyone is making it out to be.
Name 2 candidates you’d like to see?
Heck, give Frank Wilson an interview. I think he'd be a huge risk with more upside, than what we did with O. And who knows, maybe he's ready.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 11:11 am to Scoob
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Heck, give Frank Wilson an interview. I think he'd be a huge risk with more upside, than what we did with O. And who knows, maybe he's ready.
frick no.
Another "recruiter" that has no coordinator experience. That rarely works.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 11:37 am to TheCaterpillar
quote:Oh, Frank wouldn't be on my short list. I'd go after (in order):
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Heck, give Frank Wilson an interview. I think he'd be a huge risk with more upside, than what we did with O. And who knows, maybe he's ready.
frick no.
Another "recruiter" that has no coordinator experience. That rarely works.
1) established winner who may move- in other words the Jimbo type. Not sure who that would be; Dabo maybe? (before you go crazy, I pulled that name out of my arse. But he's pushed Clemson to the mountain, he might want to try that again, and he might think he can take Saban in conference).
Patterson at TCU fits that, too. I'd float offers to maybe 2-3 of these guys, see if anyone gets interested. Who knows, you might get a bite.
2) Name guy at a non-power major- sort of the Fedora pick. A guy who's won at times, and can see what it takes, but isn't at the program that's invested the way the power teams in his conference is. Probably have 3-4 of these guys on the list, and assume at least one would be interested. I'd say both Saban and Miles were this.
3) Hot mid-major prospect- guy at Memphis might be the target. Just one or two, and expect they'd be eager to take the job.
4) superstar coordinator- Aranda fits here. I would narrow this to only one, and fully expect that if offered, he'd take it.
If you want a complete reboot of the system, this guy moves up in the priority, to maybe 2nd choice, behind the proven big-name winners.
If everything else fails, last resort would be someone like Wilson. Absolutely don't want him, but I think he'd keep the talent level viable for when you fire him a couple years down the road.
The goal would be to get a pool of guys who'd WANT the job, and then pick the best choice of the bunch. And have at least one functional option in the chance nobody of value is interested.
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