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Posted on 1/1/14 at 6:34 pm to Ponchy Tiger
The whistle was blown because it was called a TD thus making it a dead ball
Posted on 1/1/14 at 6:35 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Watch the play again, was called a TD and overturned.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 6:36 pm to Ponchy Tiger
quote:
They screwed the pooch when they blew the ball dead when it was live in the endzone.
The ref at the goaline obviously didn't see it as a fumble because he signaled TD. That's why they have replay to begin with.
This post was edited on 1/1/14 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 1/1/14 at 6:36 pm to Rouge
It wound up being enforced as an inadvertent whistle. The whistle blew when the side man signaled TD therefore the ball is played from a spot determined by the possessing teams wish. Of course, Iowa wanted it at the last spot of possession. The whistle killed the ball while loose.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 6:58 pm to The Eric
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This happened in the TCU Texas tech game and was called as a touchback and given to the other team.
I'm pretty sure that one was called the same way
I remember that being a horribly officiated game as well. I wonder if it was the same crew
This post was edited on 1/1/14 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 1/1/14 at 7:02 pm to Rouge
They need to change the rule to say: Any dumbass who drops the ball before crossing the goal line will cost his team the possession.
Seen way too many of these plays recently. Can't comprehend how this happens.
Seen way too many of these plays recently. Can't comprehend how this happens.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 7:11 pm to JustSmokin
So u agree that this crew was Terrible right?
Posted on 1/1/14 at 7:19 pm to mdtiger1
quote:
It wound up being enforced as an inadvertent whistle. The whistle blew when the side man signaled TD therefore the ball is played from a spot determined by the possessing teams wish. Of course, Iowa wanted it at the last spot of possession. The whistle killed the ball while loose.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 7:40 pm to LSUfan4444
The play was ruled correctly. Ball is brought back to the point of the fumble, which was the 1 yardline. Also saw this exact same play earlier this year, ruled the same way. Don't recall the game.
The following is directly from the 2013 NCAA instant replay case book.
125. Fumble at a goal line
First and goal on the B-5. A22 runs to B’s goal line, loses the ball prior to
it breaking the plane of the goal line, and the officials rule touchdown.
The ball comes to rest in the end zone with no player attempting to
recover it. Ruling: Reviewable play, regarding whether A22 scored
a touchdown before he lost the ball. Reverse to no score, A 2-Goal on
B-1. If the ball becomes dead in the end zone with no team possessing
it, the ball is placed at the spot of the fumble. If the ball is dead in the
field of play, the ball is placed at that spot (Rule 12-3-1-a and 12-3-3-d).
The following is directly from the 2013 NCAA instant replay case book.
125. Fumble at a goal line
First and goal on the B-5. A22 runs to B’s goal line, loses the ball prior to
it breaking the plane of the goal line, and the officials rule touchdown.
The ball comes to rest in the end zone with no player attempting to
recover it. Ruling: Reviewable play, regarding whether A22 scored
a touchdown before he lost the ball. Reverse to no score, A 2-Goal on
B-1. If the ball becomes dead in the end zone with no team possessing
it, the ball is placed at the spot of the fumble. If the ball is dead in the
field of play, the ball is placed at that spot (Rule 12-3-1-a and 12-3-3-d).
This post was edited on 1/1/14 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 1/1/14 at 7:45 pm to JustSmokin
quote:
They need to change the rule to say: Any dumbass who drops the ball before crossing the goal line will cost his team the possession.
I agree. I do not see any reason why the team making this stupid mistake should get the ball back. Bad rule!
Posted on 1/1/14 at 7:45 pm to Informer
quote:the play is dead at this point, correct?
the officials rule touchdown.
therefore, not sure what
quote:has to do with anything. as i understand it, nothing after the touchdown call would have mattered since it was a dead ball. LSU could have recovered and it would not have mattered since it was a dead ball. is my thinking incorrect?
If the ball becomes dead in the end zone with no team possessing it, the ball is placed at the spot of the fumble.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 7:49 pm to Rouge
quote:
has to do with anything. as i understand it, nothing after the touchdown call would have mattered since it was a dead ball. LSU could have recovered and it would not have mattered since it was a dead ball. is my thinking incorrect?
Had LSU picked up the ball immediately, it would have been LSU's ball at the 20. Had an Iowa player picked it up, it would have been a TD. An immediate recovery after an erroneous TD signal is part of the review process and is reversible.
This also happened in the TCU/Texas Tech game earlier this year. It was ruled the same way, correctly.
This post was edited on 1/1/14 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 1/1/14 at 7:51 pm to Ponchy Tiger
quote:
None of this explains why the Refs blew a play dead when the ball was live and clearly in bounds and live and not in possession of a player from either team.
As it happened live, it was called a TD, which signifies the end of play.
It wasn't determined that the ball should've been alive until after the review was called. If an LSU player had picked the ball up in the replay, it would've been a touchback, as the refs ruled the TD reversed, thereby making everything after the "ref signaling TD" as fair play/or ball still in play.
This post was edited on 1/1/14 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 1/1/14 at 7:52 pm to Informer
quote:i can work with this. thanks so much
Had LSU picked up the ball immediately, it would have been LSU's ball at the 20. Had an Iowa player picked it up, it would have been a TD. An immediate recovery after an erroneous TD signal is part of the review process and is reversible.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 7:54 pm to Rouge
That ref's sole job on that play was to ensure that the runner crossed the goal line with possession of the ball. He failed miserably.
That plus his complete miss of Jennings being tackled while attempting to stop the return essentially meant that he was being a spectator.
Good job dumbass.
I wish the broadcast both would call these jackasses out more often.
That plus his complete miss of Jennings being tackled while attempting to stop the return essentially meant that he was being a spectator.
Good job dumbass.
I wish the broadcast both would call these jackasses out more often.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 7:56 pm to Informer
IMO this rule needs to be looked at long and hard. I understand the reasoning with the immediacy and how it is part of the rule. But that is kind of open to interuptitation. Define immediate? The only fair thing in a situation like this would for it to be a touchback.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 7:59 pm to alajones
quote:
That ref's sole job on that play was to ensure that the runner crossed the goal line with possession of the ball. He failed miserably.
That plus his complete miss of Jennings being tackled while attempting to stop the return essentially meant that he was being a spectator.
Good job dumbass.
The play is pretty bang bang. He's running at the same time....I think it's pretty hard to catch everything with everything going on.
Dude totally botched Jennings getting held though.
This post was edited on 1/1/14 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 1/1/14 at 7:59 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Rewarding the fumbling team the ball in such a situation basically lets 2 people off the hook for their combined mistakes. The premature TD signal by the official and the fumble by the runner.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 8:01 pm to High C
Yeah yeah. frick that noise, I'm still trying to figure out how the frick the ref didn't pull the flag on the 10 when Jennings was being arse raped by the lineman. He had his shoulder pad and then 2 hand gulls of jerseys from the back.
And there were signaled touchdowns buy the refs. The same ref that watched Jennings get held signaled the TD
And there were signaled touchdowns buy the refs. The same ref that watched Jennings get held signaled the TD
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