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Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:55 pm to
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:55 pm to
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no benefits were added
Nor subtracted.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:57 pm to
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It doesn't matter.

it does matter

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It's not part of any NCAA or LSU or SEC rule.

i bet you it is part of an LSU rule, and the rule of every other school who uses greyshirts

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Of course not.

i win
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:58 pm to
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Nor subtracted.

right now he has no scholarship

he was promised a scholarship that would be in effect right now

so yes, this scholarship was "subtracted"
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 5:58 pm to
You haven't even made a point.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 6:00 pm to
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You haven't even made a point.

it's a simple point

1. LSU induced porter to sign his LOI with a scholarship offer for the 2010-2011 season

2. porter accepted. LSU accepted.

3. LSU is now not offering porter a scholarship for the 2010-2011 season
This post was edited on 8/4/10 at 6:01 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 6:00 pm to
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right now he has no scholarship


No greyshirt does.
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he was promised a scholarship that would be in effect right now


So what?

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so yes, this scholarship was "subtracted"
This is something a 6 year old would say.

Stop asking questions and supply some answers. Ooops, you can't because you know starting with the bowl practices, he will get 5(really 5.5) to play 4 and every dime worth of benefits every other non-greyshirt will get.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 6:01 pm to
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Ooops, you can't because you know starting with the bowl practices, he will get 5(really 5.5) to play 4 and every dime worth of benefits every other non-greyshirt will get.


Boom!
Posted by tigerguy121
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 6:02 pm to
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he was promised a scholarship that would be in effect right now


So what?


really?? you don't see what that is a problem?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 6:04 pm to
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you don't see what that is a problem?
Whether it's a problem or not is another discussion. Look at context. Look at what SFP is arguing. It simply doesn't aid his argument.
Posted by lynxcat
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 6:04 pm to
This thread has gotten wayyy too long.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 6:05 pm to
Anchor would be nice.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 6:05 pm to
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No greyshirt does.

you said earlier a greyshirt WAS a scholarship

and porter was not a "greyshirt" when he signed his LOI and this option had never been discussed with him

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So what?

so LSU has revoked that scholarship

that's the entire point

they made a promise/guarantee, and they're backing out. it is the entire point

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Stop asking questions and supply some answers.

what answers?

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Ooops, you can't because you know starting with the bowl practices, he will get 5(really 5.5) to play 4 and every dime worth of benefits every other non-greyshirt will get.

that's not what LSU told him when he signed his LOI

had the greyshirt option been discussed before NSD, this wouldn't be an argument

now you have to ask yourself why LSU purposefully withheld this from porter
Posted by lynxcat
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 6:05 pm to
The sooner you realize that ethically unsound things occur at all levels of sports, then the sooner you can accept situations like this--doesn't mean it is the right thing, but sometimes crappy situations come to exist in an industry worth millions of dollars.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 6:06 pm to
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Whether it's a problem or not is another discussion.

no that is the fricking discussion

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Look at context. Look at what SFP is arguing. It simply doesn't aid his argument.


i'm saying the kid is fricked over right now b/c LSU fricked this situation up and/or lied to the kid

that is the point
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 6:07 pm to
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doesn't mean it is the right thing

but the one thing rantards can cling to is miles reported honor/integrity. stuff like this destroys that

without integrity, what does miles bring to the table at an elite level?
Posted by tigerguy121
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 6:07 pm to
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The sooner you realize that ethically unsound things occur at all levels of sports, then the sooner you can accept situations like this--doesn't mean it is the right thing, but sometimes crappy situations come to exist in an industry worth millions of dollars.


I think this goes against people defending Les. Once people realize that shitty things like this happen they can realize that not every move that Les Miles does is full of sunshine and rainbows and he can make mistakes, bad decisions
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 6:08 pm to
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Ooops, you can't because you know starting with the bowl practices, he will get 5(really 5.5) to play 4 and every dime worth of benefits every other non-greyshirt will get.



that's not what LSU told him when he signed his LOI
Whether he was told or not has nothing to do with what you are claiming. Bottom lines are pretty important. the bottom line here is: Starting with bowl practices, he will get 5(really 5.5) to play 4 and every dime worth of benefits every other non-greyshirt will get.

Now, go ahead and change your argumant yet again.

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 6:09 pm to
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i'm saying the kid is fricked over right now b/c LSU fricked this situation up and/or lied to the kid

that is the point
Sure, but you're saying all sorts of other things too. You really pick and choose nicely.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/4/10 at 6:10 pm to
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but the one thing rantards can cling to is miles reported honor/integrity. stuff like this destroys that

without integrity, what does miles bring to the table at an elite level?


I don't think this one event ruins his integrity. That is purely my opinion, though.
Posted by tigerguy121
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2006
10695 posts
Posted on 8/4/10 at 6:11 pm to
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i'm saying the kid is fricked over right now b/c LSU fricked this situation up and/or lied to the kid

that is the point
Sure, but you're saying all sorts of other things too. You really pick and choose nicely.


Is he wrong on that the point there??
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