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Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:19 am to 5Alive
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Any real coach/player would see that JJ's attributes outweigh JL any day.
That doesn't change the fact that Saturday night was an abomination of qb play by JJ. Quite possible the worst performance by a qb that I've seen this year, and I am including all divisions of college football. Just an abomination.
JJ might have more raw ability, but that raw ability only shows up on the field every once in a while.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:19 am to Rudy40
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I for one and many I know supported Rohan over Booty, Tyler over Sparacino so that makes me a racist. Next year if I support Mett over Randall because I believe he is a better qb as a RS junior than a RS frosh am I being racist? If in 2014 if I support Randall over Rivers am I being a reverse racist against Rivers?
how 'bout supporting the name on the side of the helmet instead of the one on the back of the jersey
This post was edited on 12/5/11 at 10:20 am
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:23 am to TIGRLEE
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Kid has done NOTHING other whats been asked of him and been the ultimate team player for 4 years.
Its one thing if JJ was playing at a different level, but theres not one person that breathes that can trruthfully say that.
he's done whats been asked of him....which has been to be a backup the last 3 years. Thanks JL....you've done a good job
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:23 am to smooth99
Dude most college qbs would not have faired well against GA in the first half out OLine was getting that arse taxed! Did u not see the changes in the 2nd half??
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:25 am to bojabu
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I feel that he owes me an explaination for several reasons
He owes you a successful, SEC championship contending college football team, but he doesn't owe you an explaination for playing time decisions for any certain player.
Why oneone would think the right thing to do would be to put out to the public explainations why any player has had a reduction in playing time is beyond me.
Nothing like putting a players laundry out for public view to help recruiting, huh.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:26 am to SpicyStacy
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This isn't the special olympics where everyone gets a first place ribbon. If you are so concerned with emotions you should go paint your nails and stop watching football.
I couldn't have said it better
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:29 am to BeeFense5
I know Beefense actually responding to logic or facts isnt your strong suit so I understand. Really doesnt matter if I have black friends, white friends, orange friends or green friends.
It has to do with wanting to see the best player on the field. You may want a qb who led the team to 0 first downs and a half and 25 total yards in the game, one who has put up even worse numbers than that on more than one occasion and might cover it all by saying well LSU won so JJ must be good.
However you ever consider they may actually need a qb who can help the team win in the NC game instead of having to win in spite of? You know like they had to try and win in spite of most of last year but unfortunately it cost them in the Auburn and Arky games?
It has to do with wanting to see the best player on the field. You may want a qb who led the team to 0 first downs and a half and 25 total yards in the game, one who has put up even worse numbers than that on more than one occasion and might cover it all by saying well LSU won so JJ must be good.
However you ever consider they may actually need a qb who can help the team win in the NC game instead of having to win in spite of? You know like they had to try and win in spite of most of last year but unfortunately it cost them in the Auburn and Arky games?
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:30 am to 5Alive
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Dude most college qbs would not have faired well against GA in the first half out OLine was getting that arse taxed! Did u not see the changes in the 2nd half??
Sure. They were getting that "arse taxed". Did that make JJ wait unitl ODB33 completed his button hook to throw the ball? Did that make JJ air mail a slant to RR2 in which Randle was WIDE OPEN? Did that make JJ underthrow RR2 on the second play of the game in which RR2 had the defender beat by 2-3 steps in single covg? Not only underthrow, but throw so dang late he didn't have the arm to get it there?
These three plays CHANGE the game. Because these plays were not made, we are behind the sticks in bad down and distance situation. It just compounds the senario. He was lucky that rambo didn't react quick enough to the ODB33 buttonhook. He was lucky that the other corner for UGA had his air mail pass hit him and fall incomplete. If JJ was a serviceable qb, we aren't making the follow up calls which left us no chance.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:31 am to Rudy40
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You know like they had to try and win in spite of most of last year but unfortunately it cost them in the Auburn and Arky games?
you dumb
and stop talking like we have Joe Montana sitting on the sidelines. both QBs are equally mediocre
This post was edited on 12/5/11 at 10:33 am
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:33 am to Rudy40
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You know like they had to try and win in spite of most of last year but unfortunately it cost them in the Auburn and Arky games?
Damn, JJ gave up 400 yards rushing to auburn by himself?
Oh and JJ gave up 70 yard touch down before halftime and let knile Davis run all over him in the second half?
That SOB JJ!!!111 All his fault!!!!!
This post was edited on 12/5/11 at 10:35 am
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:34 am to Choctaw
Really so please explain how JJ helped them in those games? Start with not being able to get the team in the endzone the entire 2nd half of the Arky game and finish with the 2nd half of the Aubie game where Ware threw the touchdown pass which was the only points scored by LSU in the 2nd half?
Might hurt your brain to try and come up with more excuses for your beloved but go ahead?
Might hurt your brain to try and come up with more excuses for your beloved but go ahead?
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:36 am to Rudy40
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Really so please explain how JJ helped them in those games? Start with not being able to get the team in the endzone the entire 2nd half of the Arky game and finish with the 2nd half of the Aubie game where Ware threw the touchdown pass which was the only points scored by LSU in the 2nd half?
there's alot of players on a football team....this isn't tennis
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:36 am to Rudy40
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Rudy40
So JL is much better than JJ?
I guess you think our coaching staff doesn't know what they are doing then right?
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:38 am to smooth99
I will give u the RR throws and also that long throw was not because he didn't have the arm it's because that ball didn't come out his hand right at all period. The pass to obj was well defended Boykin was in his hip pocket get over it! Even Danielson said the pass was perfect. He had a horrible first half along with all of the offense and offensive coaching staff.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:39 am to Choctaw
Lee 62.3 comp. % 7.82 ypa 152.0 QB rating
JJ 60.2 comp. % 8.24 ypa 150.9 QB rating
JJ 60.2 comp. % 8.24 ypa 150.9 QB rating
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:40 am to Devious
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This - why do people think Miles silence is a lack of character?
His lack of character comes from continually lying about trying to put Lee in. He says he's going to get him in on the 3rd series, then backtracks and says the game didn't dictate it. If 7 3 and outs didn't dictate a change to give the team a spark then nothing short of a career ending injury to Jefferson will ever dictate putting Lee in the game.
My only real issue is the message it sends. We are going to bail on Lee at the very first moment of adversity, notwithstanding all he has done for us throughout near impossible circumstances. The kid has been standup and caused us no problems, but we're bailing on him. Alternatively, the kid that has caused a lot of adversity, both on and off the field, is the one that we will stand behind no matter what. That's the Miles message.
Frankly, we're winning with Jefferson, so Miles doing his job and doesn't owe anyone an explanation. He just shouldn't stand behind the whole character and accountability thing.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:40 am to Choctaw
Wow. I just returned from a meeting and again see all the banter. JJ is better, JL is better, yadda, yadda, yadda. Jesus people, can't we give this thing a rest? WTF is going to be solved as a result of all this bs? Can we please just move on for God's sake? The best news is both of these guys have just one more game here at LSU. And thank the Lord for that. Period!
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:40 am to Rudy40
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It has to do with wanting to see the best player on the field.
For me, it has to do with assuming that the SEC champion/BCSCG LSU coaching staff feels that's just what they are doing.
That staff has done a pretty good so far, but who knows...maybe they are wrong and you are right.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 10:40 am to Hat Tricks
Don't be surprised if Lee gets some series against bama in throwing/passing situations. Our passing game has been mysteriously void in the last two games. Maybe Miles has something up his sleeve.
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