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re: Greedy is really letting down his program
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:11 am to VermilionTiger
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:11 am to VermilionTiger
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Who’s going to pay for Greedy and his family to survive if he suffers a career ending injury?
the insurance policy and education that LSU has paid for...
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:11 am to boxcar willie
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bull shite, if he were my son I would bitch slap his arse and tell him to act like a man and that he was embarrassing the family name.
Give me a break.
The kid has a young daughter to care for. Do I want him to play in the game, of course.
Do I blame him for looking out for his family? Absolutely not. She is his family.
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I Would of taught him about respect and what it is to be a man of good moral character
It's would "have." And that's exactly what he's doing, looking out for what's first in his life. His little girl. His mom, etc. His life, not yours.
Get off your high horse and quit dogging the kid.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 12:13 am
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:14 am to la_birdman
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Get off your high horse and quit dogging the kid.
Give 'em hell birdman!
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:15 am to SEC Grapevine
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Williams going top 2-3 in the Draft and getting paid is worth a lot to LSU in DBU recruiting value.
how would playing in the bowl reduce his value? IT DOESN'T reduce his value. It is just a stupid argument that keeps being said over and over again on here with no basis in reality. The odds of a draft altering injury are miniscule. I respect him and he was a great player at LSU but he just has a very risk adverse personality and/or not a lot of loyalty to his team. It is a character flaw that I am sure he will outgrow in time as he gains more life experiences
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:17 am to boxcar willie
You play for LSU Until you don't. End of discussion.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:17 am to earl keese
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Give 'em hell birdman!
I'm not trying to be disingenuous or a jerk, I understand fans want to see this kid play in the bowl game, I get it. He's that good. I want to see him play too. However, he is darn near guaranteed to go in the first round and make some serious bank which, in all likelihood, will provide a lifetime of benefits for him, his daughter and his family.
My father provided for me, as did yours, and you do for your kids, and so forth.
So to rip on the kid for doing that is pretty ridiculous.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 12:29 am
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:17 am to TexasTiger80
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Yeah, what a great role model. "My dad is a quitter."
Do you think o's kids think of him that way?
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:23 am to boxcar willie
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The odds of a draft altering injury are miniscule.
But if it happens, his draft stock would drop, he loses millions, his time in the NFL could be compromised.
He'd have to go to rehab for whatever injury, maybe have surgery, but you would simply say, "oh that's too bad."
I don't blame him for not taking that chance. It's his family he has to think about.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 12:25 am
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:24 am to la_birdman
quote:do not mean to dog him at all. He needs to look after his wife and kids I agree and playing in the bowl game does nothing to stop that from happening. It's not like he has a nagging injury that would likely get worse with playing time. He is just afraid of taking the very minimal risk of getting a career altering injury which in the contest of the risk in everyday life is just absurdly cautious. This has happened to so few players as to be statistically insignificant. Probably less than 1 in a hundred of that happening. Might be more like 1 in a thousand players in bowl games each year who get that sort of injury. I know there are some people who live their lives very afraid. I just wasn't raised that way.
quit dogging the kid.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:25 am to boxcar willie
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no I am not, you just dont' like what I have to say
What? You said.....
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may have just grown up in a situation where no role models of high character traits to look up to or grew up in a situation where he was very afraid of taking risks
Which is implying that his decision is because he doesnt have high character traits because he wasnt around any high character people.
There is literally no other way to read into that statement.
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and what in the world makes you think he wouldn't be able to do that if he played in the bowl game? You know the Nfl
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When did i say this?
I said he is choosing to set his grandkids up financially over the risk of losing millions that he can never get back.
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NFL doesn't hold it against you if you play in your bowl game?
Where did i say it did?
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WHERE DO YOU EVEN COME UP WITH THis shite? WTF are you even talking about?
Because you just insinuated that the lack of high character traits he chose to sit out.
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My expectation of him turning pro blah blah blah… " I don't even know what that is supposed to mean
It means youre question high character traits because he chose to turn pro before you wanted him to turn pro.
He turned pro before the bowl game instead of after it.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 12:27 am
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:26 am to la_birdman
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I mean I understand fans want to see him play in the bowl game
Oh hell yeah. I'd like to see him play. But that's not my choice to make. That's his choice.
More power to him for making the decision he feels is best for him. And I wish him good luck going forward.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:27 am to boxcar willie
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He is just afraid of taking the very minimal risk of getting a career altering injury
Like I just stated, he's not afraid of that. He has to take that risk into account. It would be foolish not to.
Should he sustain a serious injury, he would lose millions, his draft stock would drop, he'd more than likely have to have surgery for whatever injury, then PT and so forth.
He has to think of his daughter while he knows full well that the LSU fans want to see him play but he has to think of his and her future.
Get over it.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:30 am to earl keese
Absolutely. Selfishly, I want him to play in the bowl game too but he's a father and he has a little girl to provide for.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:31 am to la_birdman
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My father provided for me, as did yours, and you do for your kids, and so forth. So to rip on the kid for doing that is pretty ridiculous.
literally nothing is stopping him from doing that. This whole argument is dumb. Thousands of players have played in bowls and gone on to provide for their families in the nfl since the beginning of the nfl. It is just in the past few year starting with this generation of kids that this has become a thing. This generation is not like we were. they are very afraid. It is weird.
But in reality it is just a few from this generation who are like this. Still the vast majority aren't afraid
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:31 am to boxcar willie
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bull shite, if he were my son I would bitch slap his arse and tell him to act like a man and that he was embarrassing the family name.
Holy shite.
Here you are again insinuating that Greedy isnt acting like a man because of his decision to turn pro.
The fact that you cant see this isnt shocking.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:33 am to boxcar willie
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This has happened to so few players as to be statistically insignificant. Probably less than 1 in a hundred of that happenin
And he is alleviating that issue and making it impossible to get hurt during the bowl game.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:34 am to boxcar willie
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literally nothing is stopping him from doing that
For the third time, should he get hurt, his first round stock would drop to who knows where, thus he wouldn't receive the monetary contract he is staring at right now.
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This generation is not like we were. they are very afraid
He isn't afraid of anything. Why this is such a hard pill for you to take is beyond me.
He has a 2 year old daughter to provide for. Provide for his mom.
Put aside your selfishness and wish him well.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 12:36 am
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:35 am to la_birdman
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I want him to play in the bowl game too but he's a father and he has a little girl to provide for.
its not what we want, it is what he wants. I just dont' get how he does not want to play in the bowl with his team and finish out the season and is so afraid. Literally nothing is stopping him from both playing and providing. IT has just become such a stupid argument. You shouldn't live life so afraid. Would be bad and sad to get hit by a bus or a meteor tomorrow also but you should still just live your life without that fear in a normal way.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:37 am to TexasTiger80
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This generation of me first is disgusting.
You mean the generation that Boomers raped for education dollars, increasing costs 10 fold? Eliminated pensions and other real investment in people and workers? Escalated the level for kids to get jobs so that they could work until they were 85, while STILL requiring younger generations to pay for their social security, and using that very pot of money to fund pointless selfish enterprises? Yeah, who would have thunk they'd start putting themselves first like the Boomers did and are still doing.
I'm not saying all of that is bad, but it does effect culture. Me first happens because team first goes by the wayside when real needs, like housing and education, are taken advantage of via policy.
Plus, Greedy is smart, he knows he is nothing but a product for the NCAA and the NFL. He has to protect that product. Stop making football to be some noble enterprise of hard working guys who just like to bash skulls. Those days are gone bud. it's a business....one created by, yet again, an older, greedy, selfish generation.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:37 am to boxcar willie
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it is what he wants
Exactly.
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I just dont' get how he does not want to play in the bowl with his team
I just explained it to you three times.
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is so afraid
Good grief.
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