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Posted on 9/8/24 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 3:53 pm to
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Are you suggesting I’m saying to line him up at DE? Nobody’s saying that and you continue to use the ATM game as evidence against him when it isn’t. Again you can pull your stunts with some people but I’ve already rewatched all those games so I know you really are just reaching and don’t know what actually happened in those games pertaining to Perkins.


So give your version of what happened then.


Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 3:53 pm to
Already answered this yesterday and told you to go look for yourself.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 3:54 pm to
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Already answered this yesterday and told you to go look for yourself.


It's always a deflection with you.


Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 3:55 pm to
How so?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68613 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 3:56 pm to
Answer the question, why did Perkins suddenly stop being a nightmare for opposing offenses after the UAB game in 2022?

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 3:59 pm to
Wait you accuse me of deflecting then you deflect. Then you pretend you already asked me a question you just asked. Like I said can’t have an honest discussion with a person who’s totally dishonest
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 4:04 pm to
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Wait you accuse me of deflecting then you deflect. Then you pretend you already asked me a question you just asked. Like I said can’t have an honest discussion with a person who’s totally dishonest


You're still deflecting from the question.

For the third time, why did Perkins stop being such a difference maker after UAB game?

He made some tackles here and there, like he does now, but wasn't making plays in the same manner.

Why was that? In my opinion, teams were scheming around him but you insist that isn't true.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 4:05 pm to
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The plays he made as a freshman were due to scenarios where he was un blocked and/or a young dumb qb rolled right to him (Arkansas game where he had multiple sacks ). The fact is he is not an edge rusher by any means , he does not have the size or skills for that and cannot beat any tackle 1 vs 1. He is average lb size and it is harder to scheme for a ilb to disrupt offenses . This doesn’t mean he’s a bad player , it just means people shouldn’t expect 3 sacks a game


People discount how much it helped playing him as an OLB next to or around a guy like BJ Oujilari. He was also very athletic at the edge, but was versatile enough to drop in coverage if Perkins rushed and we were rushing 4. If we rushed 5 and Perkins came from his side, BJ taking on the OL freed him up to wreak havoc from the edge. This can’t be discounted.

The problem is that OLBs are basically non-existent today outside of run sets and Perkins just isn’t big enough to be a true DE. The previous defensive staff tried getting him coached up enough in coverage to be on the field as an OLB/Hybrid Safety, but he gets schemed out of plays just as easily as he does at MLB, just in different ways.

What Perkins did as a true freshman is never happening again. You all need to figure that out. Whether he stays at MLB or gets moved to Star, he will never duplicate those results. If he can get a free rush playing as a DE a few pass snaps per game, that’s as close as you will see. Everyone just needs to make their peace with this.
This post was edited on 9/8/24 at 4:21 pm
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33843 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 4:07 pm to
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dude should be having a Micah Parson type impact for us...


Perkins isn’t close to Parsons’ size or strength. This has been discussed ad nauseam.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67618 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 4:08 pm to
He continued to be a difference maker after Arkansas. He had a high in tackles vs UGA, he forced more fumbles after the Arky game than before, had more TFLs after Arky than before, averaged more tackles after Arky than before, all despite only playing 4 games after Arky compared to 9 before Arky. So again you’re wrong because you just spew shite from your feelings and never once look at the info or video. Youre a clown
This post was edited on 9/8/24 at 4:13 pm
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33843 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 4:16 pm to
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On obvious passing downs you rush him over the RT where he wins at a very high rate. This isn’t rocket science it’s stubbornness.


They have already done this several times this season. He’s only been effective on one play vs USC so far. He’s also played on the field with Penn and Weeks, so that basically puts him back at OLB. So the staff is already moving him around to try to get something out of him.

It’s been made pretty clear by insiders that Perkins wants to play inside LB and he probably made it clear he would leave if that didn’t happen. I hoped having a guy like Baker would help with that after seeing what he did with Clarke and Baskerville, but it’s not looking great at the moment.

If it keeps Weeks on the field more, playing Perkins at Star is probably the lesser of two evils, but he’s not going to make a huge impact there, either.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33843 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 4:18 pm to
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Nobody’s saying that and you continue to use the ATM game as evidence against him when it isn’t.


You may not be, but PLENTY of idiots here do.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 4:18 pm to
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It’s been made pretty clear by insiders that Perkins wants to play inside LB and he probably made it clear he would leave if that didn’t happen.


Well that’s just being hardheaded. He’s likely going to be a safety at the next level. He’s just costing himself money.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67618 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 4:22 pm to
Well I haven’t seen anyone say he should be playing DE
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33843 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 4:25 pm to
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Well that’s just being hardheaded. He’s likely going to be a safety at the next level. He’s just costing himself money.


It explains why they’ve tried it twice now under two different defensive staffs. I get that he wants an every down position. I actually agree that if he had the instincts and looked like he was picking it up, MLB would be more ideal for keeping him closer to the box and not putting him in tough coverage situations aa often. But we haven’t seen it yet.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33843 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 4:29 pm to
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Well I haven’t seen anyone say he should be playing DE


There’s been a constant stream of “just use him like his freshman season,” and “just make him a DE and rush him from the edge every play,” as if any of that makes any sense in real football terms. He’s not playing next to a DE/Jack as dynamic as BJ anymore, he’s not a true freshman coming out of nowhere, and he’s not even in the same defensive system anymore.
Posted by Ralphiemay
Member since Dec 2022
845 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 4:34 pm to
I will agree he can’t be worse than burns at star , but let’s not kid ourselves into thinking he won’t get taken advantage of in coverage if he played star full time . He could definitely be effective blitzing and will definitely tackle better than burns , but a good OC will force him into coverage and take advantage of him .
This post was edited on 9/8/24 at 4:39 pm
Posted by DallasTiger
THE Capital City
Member since Jan 2004
4536 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 4:35 pm to
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Well that’s just being hardheaded. He’s likely going to be a safety at the next level. He’s just costing himself money.


Astonishing that LSU fans keep saying he'll play "at the next level."

He's never proven himself as a difference maker at his current level..

He also appears dim witted and terribly arrogant. Not a good combination for a marginal player trying to make an NFL roster.
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
Member since Aug 2011
5512 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 4:38 pm to
anyone know how he projects
is he sunday material as a safety…
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67618 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 4:40 pm to
He’s listed as a top 5 WLB and top 7 edge rusher per ESPN
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