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Posted on 9/8/24 at 4:41 pm to
Posted by Ralphiemay
Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 4:41 pm to
He couldn’t make it as an nfl safety , despite what people on the rant believe . He couldn’t cover in space and the game is so much different back there , not something you decide to start doing at the nfl level . He’d be average or below average speed wise at safety too .
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68613 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 6:29 pm to
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He continued to be a difference maker after Arkansas. He had a high in tackles vs UGA, he forced more fumbles after the Arky game than before, had more TFLs after Arky than before, averaged more tackles after Arky than before, all despite only playing 4 games after Arky compared to 9 before Arky. So again you’re wrong because you just spew shite from your feelings and never once look at the info or video. Youre a clown


2 fumbles forced just against Arkansas vs 1 the entire rest of the year.

3 sacks against Arkansas vs just 1 the entire rest of the year.

True, he did have a lot of tackles vs UGA, mostly because they were running right at him. 255 yards rushing that day, averaging nearly 6 yards per carry.

You would benefit greatly if you stopped the namecalling and actually looked at the facts.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
6695 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 6:45 pm to
Perkins struggles are very strange seeing how Baker schemed for JC Carlies with Mizzou and got him drafted by the Colts as a Safety/LB. I thought he was going to have Perkins stats through the roof
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67618 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 6:47 pm to
Everything I posted was a fact ya jagoff. Unlike you who just makes shite up to try and dismiss the facts that disprove the incorrect stuff you post.
This post was edited on 9/8/24 at 6:51 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68613 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 7:10 pm to
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Everything I posted was a fact ya jagoff. Unlike you who just makes shite up to try and dismiss the facts that disprove the incorrect stuff you post.


And you will continue to be baffled as to why they "just don't use him like they did in 2022."
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67618 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 7:11 pm to
I’m not baffled at all dipshit
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30252 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 8:10 pm to
What Kelly can’t say and what this board doesn’t understand is that Perkins is playing where he wants to play. Period.

You can blame Kelly for this but if Kelly would have told him no he may transfer….i don’t know that for sure or have any knowledge of him threatening that but it’s just my opinion.
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
8162 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 9:09 pm to
Why don't our dlinemen rush to one side opening a hole for him to blitz.
that has been our problem for a long time is our blitzes simply run right into a blocker and dance. When was the last time you saw an LSU rushing up the middle unblocked. that doesn't happen by happenstance...it is a planned attack. LSU coaches have no clue apparently how to open rush lanes for players with Perkins speed. Very discouraging to watch other teams do it succesully with lesser players.
Posted by Ralphiemay
Member since Dec 2022
845 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 9:13 pm to
This is due to shitty players and shitty coaching .
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
21346 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 9:20 pm to
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What Kelly can’t say and what this board doesn’t understand is that Perkins is playing where he wants to play. Period.

I think you're right. At this point, what would we lose if he wasn't on the team? What is the last game Perkins had a meaningful impact? Arkansas in 2022?
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
26722 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:33 pm to
HP built is reputation on a cold day in Arkansas. One where a backup QB made multiple mistakes, but would have no doubt led his team to a win if not for HP.

That said, HP has to be one of the most overrated defensive players to play at LSU in the last 25 years.

Lastly, LSU is killing the kids draft stock asking him to be an undersized edge rusher. Put the kid at LB, where he will/would play in the NFL.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68613 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:55 pm to
quote:

Why don't our dlinemen rush to one side opening a hole for him to blitz.
that has been our problem for a long time is our blitzes simply run right into a blocker and dance. When was the last time you saw an LSU rushing up the middle unblocked. that doesn't happen by happenstance...it is a planned attack. LSU coaches have no clue apparently how to open rush lanes for players with Perkins speed. Very discouraging to watch other teams do it succesully with lesser players.


Second play in this clip, they open a rush lane for Savion.

LINK
Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
Member since May 2023
8230 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 3:22 am to
Harold Perkins game vs Arkansas his Freshman year is literally the only thing that has him as a 1st round grade. That one game long ago made him tens of millions.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6772 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 3:38 am to
You sound like the guy who was arguing with us yesterday morning, over the same thing. He also thought that Perkins' reputation came down to the Arkansas game. You both forgot about the Ole Miss and Alabama games, apparently. No one is saying he a perfect player on the outside. He doesn't play with good leverage, doesn't have good technique in general. But he has a great burst off the edge, and he absolutely blew up the backfield for several weeks in a row, when they finally started playing regularly in his freshman season. So that is clearly where he is at his best. Making an impact is not just about getting sacks. It's about being disruptive. He has disrupted virtually nothing, where he is currently playing.

Trying to make him something he's not, so that he can prove a point to NFL scouts, is hurting himself and the team.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6772 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 3:46 am to
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Lastly, LSU is killing the kids draft stock asking him to be an undersized edge rusher. Put the kid at LB, where he will/would play in the NFL.


An undersized edge rusher was where he was getting to the QB. They have him playing at linebacker right now, and are lining him up mostly in the middle. THAT is the problem.

And I will say for the third time today: The Arkansas game was not his only good game. Why do so many of you keep saying that? Do you not remember the Ole Miss and Alabama games? You just look at the game where he had a bunch of sacks, and not all the times where he was living in the backfield in those other games? But he didn't have 4 sacks in those games, so therefore those don't count? We don't beat Alabama without the job that Perkins did in spying on Bryce Young.

The last two years, they've totally moved him away from that, trying to make him what you say he should be, because he apparently thinks that's where he'll play in the NFL. But it's not working.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6772 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 3:50 am to
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The game we lost because Kiffin started running the ball at the hole Perkins vacated to Blitz off the edge? Kiffin was trolling. Rewatch the game. Fast forward to the 4th and watch Perkins only. Watch the holes he leaves, and then watch where the RB went.


No, the game he's talking about would be the one that we WON two years ago, when Perkins came in and completely dominated them and turned the game around for our defense. When they used him to his STRENGTHS, not his weaknesses.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68613 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 3:57 am to
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And I will say for the third time today: The Arkansas game was not his only good game. Why do so many of you keep saying that? Do you not remember the Ole Miss and Alabama games? You just look at the game where he had a bunch of sacks, and not all the times where he was living in the backfield in those other games? But he didn't have 4 sacks in those games, so therefore those don't count? We don't beat Alabama without the job that Perkins did in spying on Bryce Young.


Where was he after the UAB game?
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
49234 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 4:46 am to
He probably should have moved to offense a long time ago. He just doesn't have it to play defense. He isn't aggressive and doesn't appear to like contact.
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4650 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 5:44 am to
Then let him leave, no one player should dictate where they play. He would get told you either find some discipline to play within the confines of our defensive scheme and system at LB or you’re relegated to being a pass rush specialist.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6772 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 6:01 am to
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Where was he after the UAB game?


Where was anyone after the UAB game? LSU got badly outschemed down the stretch, as well as players getting gassed from lack of rotational depth.

But I'll give you some information on Perkins, since you asked. He didn't do much against A&M, but he had 10 tackles (8 solo) to lead the team against Georgia, including 1.5 tackles for loss and a forced fumble. Then, in the bowl game against Purdue, he had 3 tackles including a sack and a forced fumble. I don't think he even played all that much in that game, as you might remember the game got out of hand very quickly, and LSU started putting in the reserves.

And he did all this as a freshman. To sit here and pretend like he was some one game wonder that year is absurd, and either ignorant or dishonest. Nothing about his game has changed since then. But his usage very much has. It is time to recognize what he is and is not good at, and put him back where was successful as a freshman. He is not a gap plugger, and he is not Ray Lewis with his strength or instincts. He is a speed guy, who can go sideline to sideline as well as get around the edge and get to to QB and disrupt plays.

Will teams start running up the middle more when he does that? Sure, that goes with anyone you blitz off the edge. The other option is to keep watching him get stonewalled in the middle, while we also get little pressure off the edge.
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