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re: Hatcher to SAM LB?
Posted on 2/16/11 at 1:52 pm to thunderbird1100
Posted on 2/16/11 at 1:52 pm to thunderbird1100
It was weird that our defense became exponentially better when Francois wasn't in. Part of that was Tyrann Mathieu coming in. 
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Posted on 2/16/11 at 2:16 pm to Jaydeaux
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Didn't it work out well for Coleman though?
i guess for LSU's sake, but not his really. He is in NFL purgatory in more than 1 way.
Had LSU moved him 2-3 years earlier, he could have learned the position as well as developed the frame to play that position at the next level.
Posted on 2/16/11 at 2:34 pm to Lester Earl
that was in chavis' 1st season, right? Tough to hold him accountable for that. Hatcher has supposedly fought the move to SLB for years now, I guess he's finally seen the writing on the wall. Not always the coaches fault Lester
Posted on 2/16/11 at 2:35 pm to GoldenBoy
francois was the biggest non factor at LB since luke sanders
Posted on 2/16/11 at 2:40 pm to BilJ
Sam - Hatcher
Mike - Baker
Will - Francois/Minter
Mark it down...
Mike - Baker
Will - Francois/Minter
Mark it down...
Posted on 2/16/11 at 3:17 pm to Scandalous55
Hatcher is a big hitter.
If he will concentrate on using that talent on opposing players it will help his play.
If he will concentrate on using that talent on opposing players it will help his play.
Posted on 2/16/11 at 4:06 pm to Scandalous55
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Will - Francois/Minter
child please
it's Lamin's time if Baker isn't at WLB
Posted on 2/16/11 at 4:17 pm to thunderbird1100
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He did pretty bad. He was a complete non-factor on the field basically.
What is it that you demand from the Sam Position, to claim he played bad and was a total non factor? Do you think Kendrick Adams was a complete non factor as well?
Posted on 2/16/11 at 4:24 pm to ATLTiger
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child please
it's Lamin's time if Baker isn't at WLB
+1. If Baker is in the middle Barrow start at Will
Posted on 2/16/11 at 4:26 pm to nitwit
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Hatcher is a big hitter.
If he will concentrate on using that talent on opposing players it will help his play.
+1
Posted on 2/16/11 at 4:29 pm to Scandalous55
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Sam - Hatcher
Mike - Baker
Will - Francois/Minter
Mark it down...
I can see that happening as well..The true battle is at Will, so Baker can Move to Mike.
Sam Hatcher/Francois
Will Barrow/Muncie
Mike Baker/ Minter
I dont see ( the possibilty ) Hatcher moving to Sam due to Francois, as much as T.Jones not being as ready.
This post was edited on 2/16/11 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 2/16/11 at 4:46 pm to seinfeldtiger
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I dont see Hatcher moving to Sam ( possibly ) due to Francois, as much as T.Jones not being as ready.
Hatcher and Francois will both be gone after next year, so I don't see why it would matter w/ Jones
Posted on 2/16/11 at 5:16 pm to Bonjourno
Right. We talking this year aren't we?
Posted on 2/16/11 at 6:45 pm to seinfeldtiger
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What is it that you demand from the Sam Position, to claim he played bad and was a total non factor? Do you think Kendrick Adams was a complete non factor as well?
Aside from watching the games and seeing that Francois was a non-factor, here's Coleman's stats vs Francois's stats one year apart, playing the same position:
Tackles: Solo/Assist/Total
Coleman: 37/45/82
Francois: 14/23/37
TFL:
Coleman: 9
Francois: 2
Sacks:
Coleman: 4
Francois: 1
And if the response is, Francois wasn't on the field as much as Coleman because Mathieu was so good, my answer is, a true frosh CB wouldn't have had a chance to prove how good he was early in the season if Coleman had been here. Chavis was looking for help and gave Mathieu his shot...when Mathieu stepped up and delivered, he got a lot of playing time including on run downs. Because Francois just wasn't getting it done.
There's a guy on youtube by the name of JoshMTD that posted some cut-ups of LSU games. Take a look at one or two of the games and watch #23. He left the door wide open for Mathieu to take his snaps.
Posted on 2/16/11 at 8:36 pm to NorfolkVATiger
First, What's Coleman have to do with Francois? Second, give me examples of what you saw that shows you he didnt do his job or as you say "non Factor"?
Also, im wondering if Chavis felt more comfortable with Blitzing Coleman with a Seasoned Cutera,Sheppard and Riley. Then a back group of Chad Jones and Danny McCray. They all have to be in sync.
I Also wonder if Francois, Wasnt sent on Blitzes in Base packages more cause Baker(Hints why they are considerig moving him to Mike) is weaker in Pass Coverage.
Also, im wondering if Chavis felt more comfortable with Blitzing Coleman with a Seasoned Cutera,Sheppard and Riley. Then a back group of Chad Jones and Danny McCray. They all have to be in sync.
I Also wonder if Francois, Wasnt sent on Blitzes in Base packages more cause Baker(Hints why they are considerig moving him to Mike) is weaker in Pass Coverage.
Posted on 2/16/11 at 8:42 pm to seinfeldtiger
what exactly do you feel francois did well at?
Posted on 2/16/11 at 8:52 pm to seinfeldtiger
Of course he's weaker in pass coverage. That's why he's the weak side LB
Posted on 2/16/11 at 8:57 pm to BilJ
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what exactly do you feel francois did well at?
On Pass defense, i found he played with Control. he read the 21 sets very well and was in position. I remember times he seemed slower to the flats but our corners like to play off so there was no jam on the line.
On run defense, He played sound team defense. He did his job. Sometimes, he over pursued but for a Sam, thats ok if you force the runner inside. Im Sure Sheppard and whoever played SS appreciated that.
Im not trying to say the dude is an All American, but to laugh and say he played poor and thats the reason for the possible move of Hatcher, in my opinion isnt warranted. I think Hatcher, is a better player and can do a lot better there, only cause Hatcher needs to be on the field. But not cause Francois is garbage is my point.
Just because someone on defense isnt highlight material, doesnt mean he's not doing his job right. Therefore, Francois was consistant.
Posted on 2/16/11 at 9:01 pm to Bonjourno
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Of course he's weaker in pass coverage. That's why he's the weak side LB
I would argue, the Will, has to be better in Pass coverage. But I hope thats not what u think Weak side means?
This post was edited on 2/16/11 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 2/16/11 at 10:40 pm to seinfeldtiger
TIMEOUT...how big is Baker now? Last I checked, he was a little on the small side to be a MLB.
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