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re: How critical is this season for Miles?
Posted on 7/31/09 at 10:09 am to Gerard Allemand
Posted on 7/31/09 at 10:09 am to Gerard Allemand
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Salute yourself dumbarse
I'll frick you and your friend in your avatar up
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Posted on 7/31/09 at 10:09 am to oldmantig
8 wins a year with a SEC west winning, 10 win season every 3rd or 4th year would probably be enough to keep a coach indefinately. National Power is great but a coach can keep his job by being relevant in his conference.
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The west may be stronger than ever this year. arky will be better, olepiss is better (for now), bama will be tough. no idea on auburn yet, besides miss state who is weak? miss state will get better as well considering who their new coach is. we HAVE to make some strides this year by really beating the crap out of people we should beat and playing those with equal talent close.
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The west may be stronger than ever this year. arky will be better, olepiss is better (for now), bama will be tough. no idea on auburn yet, besides miss state who is weak? miss state will get better as well considering who their new coach is. we HAVE to make some strides this year by really beating the crap out of people we should beat and playing those with equal talent close.
Posted on 7/31/09 at 10:12 am to Thoreauxbred
thoreauxbred, you need to step and state your case. You got people riding your arse hard.
Posted on 7/31/09 at 10:15 am to Thoreauxbred
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I'll frick you and your friend in your avatar up
One at a time or both at the same time? BTW they look like they could use a good arse whooping just for posting their bird chested asses on here.
Posted on 7/31/09 at 10:17 am to danfraz
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Other than that when has a LM coached LSU team not really shown up?
there is a difference
players can show up and play to their talent level without sound preparation and coaching
and coaches can have great gameplans and the players not show up
I've seen both...
I can name several games where we were out-coached and out-gameplanned...but the players kept us in the games ..hell, we even won some of those games
Posted on 7/31/09 at 10:18 am to Thoreauxbred
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I can name several games where we were out-coached and out-gameplanned...
I'd love to hear this.
Posted on 7/31/09 at 10:20 am to Tiger Voodoo
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Anyone who didn't think 4 or 5 losses was a very real possibility last year with the amount of talent we lost and the strength of the teams on our schedule is stupid.
dude... we really didn't lose all that much that wasn't replaceable ...come on, don't exagerrate
We still had the 2nd or 3rd best roster in the conference and went 3-5 ...and that included home losses to UGA, Ole Miss and Bama ..and no wins against any quality SEC opponents
Posted on 7/31/09 at 10:22 am to Tiger Voodoo
He did out coach the coach from Troy. I would have took a knee as coach Red did in the Waterboy if I was him. 
This post was edited on 7/31/09 at 10:23 am
Posted on 7/31/09 at 10:26 am to Thoreauxbred
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I can name several games where we were out-coached and out-gameplanned...but the players kept us in the games ..hell, we even won some of those games
now you've shown your Rantardness, congrats
Posted on 7/31/09 at 10:26 am to Jaketigger
I think in the current environment in college sports, every year is crucial and no one gets a pass. He will need to produce and win. Here is the deal, he wants to do that. Who really wants to lose? Plus he has the ingredients (players, coaches, facilities, fan support) to get it done.
Posted on 7/31/09 at 10:26 am to Thoreauxbred
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dude... we really didn't lose all that much that wasn't replaceable ...come on, don't exagerrate
Oh, so you're a stargazer.
Matt Flynn, Jacob Hester, Early Doucet, Glenn Dorsey, Craig Steltz, Ali Highsmith, Chevis Jackson, Jonathan Zenon, and Ryan Perrilloux would all LOVE to hear your definition of "replaceable". Not to mention Bo Pelini.
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We still had the 2nd or 3rd best roster
Once again, your stargazing speaks volumes.
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and that included home losses to UGA, Ole Miss and Bama ..
Yeah, home field advantage should definitely be enough to give us wins over 3 top 10 level teams. I'm sure you're going to be VERY disappointed and outraged if Florida takes us this year in DV right? I mean, the game is gonna be at night and everything. NO WAY we lose that one.
Posted on 7/31/09 at 11:12 am to Tiger Voodoo
We could go 5-7 this year and he wouldn't get fired.
Posted on 7/31/09 at 11:30 am to Tiger Voodoo
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Matt Flynn, Jacob Hester, Early Doucet, Glenn Dorsey, Craig Steltz, Ali Highsmith, Chevis Jackson, Jonathan Zenon, and Ryan Perrilloux would all LOVE to hear your definition of "replaceable". Not to mention Bo Pelini.
Flynn was a hinderance at times..certainly nothing more than a John Parker Wilson caliber player ..he never won us games
Hester was solid, but Scott is better
Doucet was good, but we have plenty of talent at WR and Lafell showed that last season with his production
Dorsey was great when healthy...but we had RJF last year and so we had enough on DLine
we did miss Ali a lot
Steltz was good and probably missed him, although we're never short on Safety talent
Chevis and Zenon were seniors with ok ability...but our youth didn't hurt us last year...Hawkins was the weakest link and he was an upperclassmen...PP is more talented than Zenon and Chevis
RP hurt, no doubt
Pelini's D was overrated at the end of '07...that D was far from great at that point. Our DCs did suck last year, you're right
So you are saying that was enough to go from a crystal ball to 3-5 in the SEC with embarrassing losses to Ole Miss and Ark to close out the year?
Posted on 7/31/09 at 11:33 am to Tiger Voodoo
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Once again, your stargazing speaks volumes
who had a better starting lineup and depth than LSU last year? ...FL and maybe UGA
Posted on 7/31/09 at 11:35 am to Tiger Voodoo
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Yeah, home field advantage should definitely be enough to give us wins over 3 top 10 level teams. I'm sure you're going to be VERY disappointed and outraged if Florida takes us this year in DV right?
FL has won 2 National Titles in 3 years
Ole Miss is usually a doormat team ...Bama is solid now but not great
You obviously don't hold LSU to a very high standard if you think we are entitled to go 0-3 playing at home against UGA, Bama and Ole Miss
Posted on 7/31/09 at 11:56 am to LSUBCSCHAMPS11
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I personally do not believe he is a great gameday coach. I hope this year he proves me wrong. He has won on talent since he was here.
That why its a damn good thing hes a damn good recruiter . But yes his game plans and game day coaching has left alittle to be desired from his 08 campaign. In 07 it was either brillant or an epic fail.
I like Les Miles. With that said, I do not recall a singular win by LSU under his tenure when Les did not have a talent advantage, none, zero, nada. On the other hand, I have witnessed multiple losses to lesser talented teams. Maybe it's game day coaching, maybe it's something else. I am not going to get into the nail biter W's that should have been put away much earlier in the game as they were W's, but snatching defeat from the jaws of victory at UK and the gift to AR in 2007 by putzing around the first half when having excellent field position for LSU seem seared into my brain.
I think the D will be vastly improved, but am still uncertain on how good the QB play will be. What's Jefferson got, two games as a starter? Seems like a heavy burden to me against some excellent opposition. Hope for the best, but sure hope he has some backup as the starting LSU QB's tend to miss games every season the past few years going back to R. Davey.
Posted on 7/31/09 at 12:10 pm to tirebiter
I think the biggest thing about last year that everyone needs to remember is that Les Miles had the balls to kick Ryan Perilloux off the team knowing he didn't have a #2 guy behind him.
Name another school in the SEC who would have kicked him off the team.
crickets chirping
Even though I think Miles made the right decision, we would have no doubt won at least two more games last year if he was still on the team. Would anyone be asking how critical Miles' season is this year if we had won two extra games.
Miles has made one poor coaching decision in my mind - not hiring a quality Def. Coordinator last year by trying to promote from within. It didn't work, he fixed it. Enough said.
When we win the West this year and give Florida hell in the SEC championship game, I hope some of you guys come back to eat crow, but I know ya'll don't have the class the Miles has, so I don't expect it.
Name another school in the SEC who would have kicked him off the team.
crickets chirping
Even though I think Miles made the right decision, we would have no doubt won at least two more games last year if he was still on the team. Would anyone be asking how critical Miles' season is this year if we had won two extra games.
Miles has made one poor coaching decision in my mind - not hiring a quality Def. Coordinator last year by trying to promote from within. It didn't work, he fixed it. Enough said.
When we win the West this year and give Florida hell in the SEC championship game, I hope some of you guys come back to eat crow, but I know ya'll don't have the class the Miles has, so I don't expect it.
Posted on 7/31/09 at 12:17 pm to Thoreauxbred
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But with a vintage recruiting year in Louisiana next year, how critical is it Les shows he can rebound strong and match strides with Saban, Urban, etc. in the SEC now with his own system and players?
How many wins does he HAVE TO HAVE this year? ..how many does he have to have to keep the recruiting strong and not get the image of Larry Coker?
Well Derby, here is something to think about. Miles is 6 wins from equaliing & 7 wins away from passing Saban's win total at LSU. He already has a better winning percentage at LSU & has far surpassed Saban in Bowl Wins & OOC games at LSU.
Bottom line Derby, is if there is not significant progress at Michigan by Rich Rodrigues, 9 or 10 wins gets Miles the Michigan job, either in 2010 or 2011, depending how long they give RR. If Miles wins 9 & loses 4. That's a 51-15 resume. He's a National Championship Head Coach, undefeated in Bowl Games & OOC games at this point. His recruiting is second to none.
Miles inherited a weird Sabanista cultish atmosphere that has invaded a vocal group of LSU fans, which you Derby Tigah, are a proud member of. Miles gave LSU a vote of confidence in 2007, after Katrina & after he won the National Championship. Don't expect that to happen again. Michigan is the Winningest program in CFB History, they will not tolerate 3-9 or 6-5 seasons very long.
This is "F'ing Great" news for the LSU fans who pull for Alabama's Coach. If Miles does head to Michigan..you're stuck with Freshman AD Joe Alleva who is ill-equipped to make a great hire. He'll fall directly into the "Jimmy Sexton Carousel of Coaches". Alleva will likely pucker/default & hire Tommy Tuberville who went 1-3 against Miles, 3-2 against Alabama's Coach. "Alway's wanted LSU to have a former Ole Miss & failed Auburn coach"
"Meh"..
Posted on 7/31/09 at 12:35 pm to danfraz
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now you've shown your Rantardness, congrats
actually he showed it right out of the gate by throwing "Coker", "Saban's Players" and "2-Loss MNC" all in one post
Posted on 7/31/09 at 2:10 pm to Thoreauxbred
Mile's long term contract keeps him safe from our clueless coach haters.
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