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re: I am here to settle the MVB vs Nussmeier controversy / debate
Posted on 10/3/25 at 4:09 pm to 225Tyga
Posted on 10/3/25 at 4:09 pm to 225Tyga
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The reason he is not playing over Nuss is because he is not as good and the coaches getting paid millions believe that Nuss gives us the best chance to win the game.
I love when people say dumb shite like this. As if you haven't watched coaches across all sports make HORRIBLE decisions while making millions.
Ignorance and ego spare no one.
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Posted on 10/3/25 at 4:15 pm to 225Tyga
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all that being said. I still want to see MVB get some reps in SEC games just to be sure
Posted on 10/3/25 at 4:24 pm to Madking
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LSU has won a ton of games, even in the modern era with far worse QB performances.
Sure.
Doesn’t negate that we win going away with better qb play.
There were multiple TD passes that were missed.
If nuss runs the ball for 2-3 of the easy first downs against the drop 8 coverage we probably win the game even as we’d control the ball more and more TOP sustains the defense.
This post was edited on 10/3/25 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 10/3/25 at 4:28 pm to Adam Banks
And if WRs don’t drop the ball, the Oline blocks, don’t have penalties on certain plays, we don’t step out of bounds or we win some 1 on 1s downfield. You could play that game with anyone almost every game. Those things happen all the time especially on the road but there’s no excuse for calling the game the way it was called.
This post was edited on 10/3/25 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 10/3/25 at 4:30 pm to Madking
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And if WRs don’t drop the ball, the Oline blocks, don’t have penalties on certain plays, we don’t step out of bounds or we win some 1 on 1s downfield. You could play that game with anyone almost every game
The other players weren’t given millions of dollars in NIL, top ten pick and heisman hype.
He’s not playing up to what was expected of gym in and the team is hurting because of it.
He needs to sit.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 4:31 pm to geauxjo
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If inserting MVB into the game is the only change we made in the 2nd half then, no, that alone would not have changed the outcome.
Would you have said the same thing last year when Texas AM made a change and it turned the game completely around for them. The point everyone is trying to make is Van Buren couldn't have did any WORSE than what Nuss was doing. So why not insert him and SEE if he can give the team a spark.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 4:36 pm to Adam Banks
- That’s irrelevant
- He’s not playing up to potential, looks hurt
- Maybe so but there’s no reason to think anything would change currently
- He’s not playing up to potential, looks hurt
- Maybe so but there’s no reason to think anything would change currently
Posted on 10/3/25 at 4:41 pm to Madking
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- He’s not playing up to potential,
Cut off the part that doesn’t matter. He’s not doing what we need out of the position. Bench him
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- Maybe so but there’s no reason to think anything would change currently
Well we’d have a qb that can actually throw past 20 yards. Also a qb who can take 10 yards on a scramble when it’s given to him.
That will change the game immensely
Posted on 10/3/25 at 4:44 pm to 225Tyga
Meh...coaches are sometimes wrong too. They had Weston Davis starting and through injury, we now have seen Carius Curne playing better. Safe to suffice, they were wrong.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 4:49 pm to Adam Banks
There’s zero evidence of that. The guy had negative rushing yards last season. You guys are acting like that was the worst played game in history but in fact his line was better than half of Van Buren’s starts last season so this idea that he’s an automatic star is just emotional nonsense. It’s lazy
Posted on 10/3/25 at 4:53 pm to Madking
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There’s zero evidence of that. The guy had negative rushing yards last season.
Well he has more yards rushing in 1 half than nuss has the last 2 seasons combined so there absolutely is evidence
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You guys are acting like that was the worst played game in history
That was the second half against TAMU last season
This post was edited on 10/3/25 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 10/3/25 at 4:56 pm to Adam Banks
A couple yards vs a HS team doesn’t count and I see you didn’t want to include last year for VB but did for Nuss. Pretty misleading. And no last season vs ATM wasn’t the worst performance ever, it wasn’t even the worst in the last few years or even close. This is what I mean, advocating for irrational decisions because of emotional panic instead of reason.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 4:56 pm to geauxjo
quote:The guy literally played the "coaches know more than anybody because they're rich" card. Do you really believe every coach thinks the same as Kelly or Sloan? Hell i know damn well they don't think the same. If you follow recruiting. Some position coaches have to fight like hell to get the HC or recruiting coordinator to sign off on offering a kid a scholarship. Are we forgetting the lack of people going after Joe Burrow and Jayden Daniels when they transfered?
That’s not nearly the same statement as saying we unquestionably win Saturday only by inserting MVB into the game.
Bryce Underwood hadn't run much in his first couple of games. That was because Sherron Moore was against it. When he had to serve his suspension, the OC was the temp HC and he ran him plenty. Over the first 2 games he had 5 carries for -6 yards total. Over the next 2 games without the HC, he has 17 carries for 175 yards and 3 TDs.
We have too many cooks in the kitchen. Oh, and yes I think MVB could have won us that game in the 2nd half.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 5:00 pm to TeamLSU
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Would you have said the same thing last year when Texas AM made a change and it turned the game completely around for them. The point everyone is trying to make is Van Buren couldn't have did any WORSE than what Nuss was doing. So why not insert him and SEE if he can give the team a spark
What I’m saying is the qb was far from our only issue Sat. If that was all it was then, sure maybe it could have helped. You put MVB in and you still have inept play calling, an o line that can’t seem to get out of its own way, a running game that ain’t running, some real head scratching penalties from guys that should be more disciplined at this point. Was the QB part of all those issues? Absolutely. But what some are asserting is a new QB was the cure-all for that game.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 5:00 pm to Madking
quote:more than nuss got
A couple yards vs a HS team doesn’t count and I see you didn’t want to include last year for VB but did for Nuss.
I can’t believe you are trying to downplay the fact that nuss REFUSES to run.
I’m not saying can buren is Jayden Daniels
He just needs to not be an idiot and throw it in to double coverage like nuss when there is ten yards to be picked up on the ground.
Nuss not running is a reflection of his decision making. Not his “injury” (this was a universal complaint last year too) or athletic ability.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 5:07 pm to Adam Banks
Still not why the game was lost so again it’s an irrational and emotional move. Until we can block somebody, make plays outside or call the game like we have a clue it won’t matter who’s behind center.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 5:10 pm to Madking
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Still not why the game was lost so again it’s an irrational and emotional move. Until we can block somebody, make plays outside or call the game like we have a clue it won’t matter who’s behind center.
This. All of this.
I’m absolutely not opposed to new qb play. But I’d actually really feel for the backup stepping into the mess we have now.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 5:13 pm to Madking
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it’s an irrational and emotional move.
An irrational emotional move would be continuing to play the qb who literally throws up so many wounded ducks that it has led to mass speculation of a significant core injury because he is so limited in his skills.
Nuss has always had questionable decision making.
He has run.
The one thing he has was arm strength and throwing ability and now by your own admission that is gone.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 5:17 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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If the second string QB is your solution to our offensive problems then you have no solution.
Tell that to Ole Miss
Ole Miss has a coach who knows how to run an offense.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 5:17 pm to Adam Banks
So just to be clear he went 13-18 in the second half with zero TOs, zero run game and throwing against 8 man coverage. You’re pretending like it’s the worst game ever or reason to pull him. Until the entire offense around him doesn’t look like elementary school trash you can’t really evaluate much.
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