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re: Is Dale Brown considered an Elite coach?
Posted on 11/3/08 at 8:10 pm to BamaHater
Posted on 11/3/08 at 8:10 pm to BamaHater
Pre-1990, you could say that he was borderline, possibly knocking on the door to being considered elite. After Shaq came and LSU basketball promptly went in the tank, you really couldn't say that anymore.
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Posted on 11/3/08 at 8:13 pm to PiscesTiger
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He was RAW, yes.
better way to put it. I remember seeing him walking around the student union. So thin compared to today. I saw him this past summer in Grand Cayman. Amazing how much he filled out.
Posted on 11/3/08 at 8:24 pm to Stevo
Still almost a couple of decades removed, DB still gets em talking. Wish LSU basketball had that fever again. I don't know how much of an X-0 guy Brown was, but it was still the apex of LSU basketball. The golden age, interest was through the roof. If being a coach is just the ability to draw it up on the blackboard, then quite a few coaches are not in that class. No, Brown isn't in the elite as far as championships, records, etc. But he accomplished what any coach would love to do. Make a pretty backward program a showcase, a household name. A little Don King, A little Howard Cosell, throw some Ghandi in there as well. I prefer the DB era to anything I have seen in mens basketball. Didn't get the chance to watch the pistol, was still a runt. I would take the LSU North Carolina, or Georgetown and the Loyala Marymount games as some of the best I have seen. Brown made sure it was a national centerpiece.
Posted on 11/3/08 at 9:02 pm to BamaHater
I only read the first page of posts, but could someone link the long list (sarcasm) of coaches with at least 2 Final Four appearances and another Elite Eight (losing to the National Champs by 1 point).
Dale Brown, not in the top ten of all time, but yes he was elite (top 10%).
Dale Brown, not in the top ten of all time, but yes he was elite (top 10%).
Posted on 11/3/08 at 9:32 pm to BamaHater
Defining Elite is in itself a difficult term. What are the criteria for your definition of elite. If it is a winning record in one of the biggest College conferences in all of colleges sports, then yes, he was an elite coach.
These lists are silly.
These lists are silly.
Posted on 11/3/08 at 9:34 pm to Templars
IMO Dale Brown=Charlie McClendon
in many ways their careers were similar, I guess it would depend on how you define elite
in many ways their careers were similar, I guess it would depend on how you define elite
Posted on 11/3/08 at 9:47 pm to BamaHater
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Is Dale Brown considered an Elite coach?
I say no.
Please explain the point of bringing this up...NOW! I mean GEEZ! :beatdeadhorse:
Posted on 11/3/08 at 9:56 pm to jbs780
When Dale stepped down it was time. He had enough of recruiting and it showed up on the roster. However he was LSU basketball and one of the best motivators I ever seen. He got more wins out of lesser teams but less out of talented teams like the Shaq era. Where he ranks with the Elite coaches like Wooden, Roy Williams, Dean Smith etc. I don't know. I am just glad we had him at LSU.
Posted on 11/3/08 at 9:57 pm to tigger1
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People Dale Brown was an X and O coach.
exact opposite.
Posted on 11/3/08 at 10:51 pm to BamaHater
He was great coach for LSU even if he won with great talent! 
Posted on 11/3/08 at 11:10 pm to Bad Cat
I think he was a great coach. He wasn't Bobby Knight or Dean smith or anything, but he built a hugely successful program. I'd rank Daddy Dale on the same level as those great coaches who never found a way to win the big one, like Gene Keady or Lefty Driesel.
Posted on 11/4/08 at 2:00 am to teebox
John Wooden said many times that LSU was never grateful enough for having Dale. Wooden considered Dale Brown one of the best. Is that opinion good enough for these boards.
Posted on 11/4/08 at 2:07 am to rtgr
John Wooden also knew what I have posted that Brown was a x and O coach, the fans wanted the cut and slash game of Boyd who had beat Wooden before, but you know Wooden never used the cut and slash game.
Posted on 11/4/08 at 3:58 am to tigger1
Dale Brown was an elite coach.
Look at his accomplishments. You have to judge each person in their period.
A great recruiter, a great motivator, an innovator of the game. He was not a great Xs and Os coach.
But he was definitely an elite coach.
Dale Brown was responsible for bringing LSU into a perennial National status for Basketball.
His legacy:
Summary of Brown's 25 Years at LSU: 1972-97
He is the only SEC coach to have ever appeared in 15 straight national tournaments and only 11 coaches in NCAA history have made more consecutive NCAA appearances (10). Only the legendary Adolph Rupp of Kentucky has won more games in SEC history. Brown and Rupp are the only SEC coaches that had 17 consecutive non-losing seasons. Only 3 coaches in the SEC have won more conference championships, Adolph Rupp, Joe Hall, and Tubby Smith.
Only 6 coaches in the SEC have led their teams to two Final Fours or more. They are Dale Brown, Billy Donovan, Joe Hall, Rick Pitino, Nolan Richardson, and Adolph Rupp.
On nine occasions Brown was selected as the SEC Coach of the Year or Runner-Up. He was twice chosen as the National Coach of the Year. In a 10 year span from 1977-1986, LSU is the only school to finish in the first division of the SEC. He has the distinction of beating Kentucky more than any coach in the nation. 105 of 160 of his players received their college degrees. He is a member of the Louisiana Sports Hall of Fame and Basketball Coaches Hall of Fame. In 2004 he was inducted as an SEC Living Legend.
During Brown's era basketball rose to a level that no one could have ever possibly imagined. LSU holds the record for the 2nd,3rd, and 4th largest paid attendance for a regular season game in college basketball history.
1-20-90 Superdome - 68,112 - LSU 87 Notre Dame 64
1-28-89 Superdome - 66,144 - LSU 82 Georgetown 80
1-03-92 Superdome - 61,304 - LSU 84 Texas 83
Legendary Coach John Wooden and Billy Packer CBS television analyst paid Coach Brown a wonderful tribute about his career at LSU.
John Wooden said, "Dale did an outstanding job in raising the level of LSU basketball to the status of equality to anyone in the country. Also, if heads of states throughout this troubled world of ours had real concern and consideration for others as Dale Brown, I doubt if our racial, religious, and political problems would be a major issue."
Billy Packer stated, "Dale Brown is one of those rare individuals who has the ability to take on the toughtest of tasks regardless of the odds against success and come out a winner. He has proven to be one of college basketball's best and a fine coach and man."
Look at his accomplishments. You have to judge each person in their period.
A great recruiter, a great motivator, an innovator of the game. He was not a great Xs and Os coach.
But he was definitely an elite coach.
Dale Brown was responsible for bringing LSU into a perennial National status for Basketball.
His legacy:
Summary of Brown's 25 Years at LSU: 1972-97
He is the only SEC coach to have ever appeared in 15 straight national tournaments and only 11 coaches in NCAA history have made more consecutive NCAA appearances (10). Only the legendary Adolph Rupp of Kentucky has won more games in SEC history. Brown and Rupp are the only SEC coaches that had 17 consecutive non-losing seasons. Only 3 coaches in the SEC have won more conference championships, Adolph Rupp, Joe Hall, and Tubby Smith.
Only 6 coaches in the SEC have led their teams to two Final Fours or more. They are Dale Brown, Billy Donovan, Joe Hall, Rick Pitino, Nolan Richardson, and Adolph Rupp.
On nine occasions Brown was selected as the SEC Coach of the Year or Runner-Up. He was twice chosen as the National Coach of the Year. In a 10 year span from 1977-1986, LSU is the only school to finish in the first division of the SEC. He has the distinction of beating Kentucky more than any coach in the nation. 105 of 160 of his players received their college degrees. He is a member of the Louisiana Sports Hall of Fame and Basketball Coaches Hall of Fame. In 2004 he was inducted as an SEC Living Legend.
During Brown's era basketball rose to a level that no one could have ever possibly imagined. LSU holds the record for the 2nd,3rd, and 4th largest paid attendance for a regular season game in college basketball history.
1-20-90 Superdome - 68,112 - LSU 87 Notre Dame 64
1-28-89 Superdome - 66,144 - LSU 82 Georgetown 80
1-03-92 Superdome - 61,304 - LSU 84 Texas 83
Legendary Coach John Wooden and Billy Packer CBS television analyst paid Coach Brown a wonderful tribute about his career at LSU.
John Wooden said, "Dale did an outstanding job in raising the level of LSU basketball to the status of equality to anyone in the country. Also, if heads of states throughout this troubled world of ours had real concern and consideration for others as Dale Brown, I doubt if our racial, religious, and political problems would be a major issue."
Billy Packer stated, "Dale Brown is one of those rare individuals who has the ability to take on the toughtest of tasks regardless of the odds against success and come out a winner. He has proven to be one of college basketball's best and a fine coach and man."
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