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Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:19 am to
Posted by lsufan251875
Member since Jul 2008
3159 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:19 am to
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Why is everyone blasting him? So ESPN says a source says he is leaning


Because this is the Rant, where they want every player to stay 4 years because it helps the team, but they are dogshit players if they try to make money off it.

Mickey has a ceiling of 2nd round, seemingly. Can his stock improve if he stays? That's debatable and maybe why he'd be leaning towards leaving. But let's leave logic at the door. frick this guy if he makes a decision that doesn't benefit LSU, am I right?

Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23249 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:19 am to
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He's not going to improve his stock. I think most people understand that. So if he understands that then the decision comes down to start making money now overseas or dleague or start next year and sit in classes for another year.
He actually could improve his stock some more. If he could show any ball-handling skills (like even being able to dribble the ball up the court), that would help. As of now, when he gets the ball, if he's not in position to shoot right away, he's more likely to turn the ball over than make a good pass, or dribble away from a defender.

Also, he has a halfway decent midrange jumper, but if he could improve that to a decisive 15 ft shot, that would help a lot (think David West sniping away). Developing a shot off glass would also improve his stock.
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:20 am to
I can see him declaring and then going to make money overseas for a little while before coming back to potentially make noise in the NBA. He needs to spend some time on his jumper. If he can get a solid jumper, he will be a solid bench player in the NBA one day.
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6067 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:20 am to
I do not think he is ready either but if he wants to go and get his money more power to him. I think that with his current defensive skill set and athleticism he could be a Dante Cunningham type of player. That is a legit NBA rotational type guy, but his offense isn't there yet and he gets pushed around by stronger post players. I think he grades to be more of a 3/4 in the league or can be.
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
15995 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:21 am to
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Do I think he can make a career out of basketball and become a millionaire? Yes


Define this. Many people in their life will earn a million dollars but it will not make them a millionaire.

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But he'll get time in the NBA


Once you leave and go to Europe it's not that easy to just give up a contract and money to come and try to make an NBA team
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
9024 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:23 am to
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Developing a shot off glass would also improve his stock.



Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59016 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:25 am to
He gone. A lot of college players got one thing on their minds, money not college degree. Unfortunately that's been the demise of college basketball. Used to be fun watching young freshman become men and improve their games meanwhile letting the fans know who they were. I hardly know anyone drafted now because of the one and done. Wish mickey and martin the best
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
15995 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:26 am to
There are sooooo many players in college basketball that could leave and go play in Europe. But they choose to come back, attempt to win Championships, work on their game. Not LSU players, especially if Mickey leaves. "He's not getting better so just leave." What? I know it's crazy, but it is possible to get a degree so when you go to Lithuania and it's cold as balls and you're miserable, you can come back and do something else.

And currently he has no shot at the NBA because his only strength is blocking average to below average guards
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72115 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:28 am to
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Define this. Many people in their life will earn a million dollars but it will not make them a millionaire.



I think Mickey has enough skill sets to develop in the D league and become an effective NBA player. My example of playing over seas is a last resort for someone with NBA aspirations, but it's still an option. It can also lead to other opportunities in the basketball world if you're smart.

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Once you leave and go to Europe it's not that easy to just give up a contract and money to come and try to make an NBA team



I was saying I think he will make an NBA team now, and worse comes to worse end up overseas. NBA is the better option, of course, but neither option is terrible. I don't know how much his stock could go up by staying another year, as I have a feeling the scoring load will be divided among the new guys as well.

All I'm saying is that it's easy to be a fan and say that he should stay to improve his stock (and help LSU) but I don't know the kid's situation financially and know that if I had an opportunity to go to the NBA, I'd certainly consider it. You never know how long you get to play this sport. It's a young man's game and injuries are prevalent. I understand if he's confident in his ability to grow and wants to go ahead and earn a living.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72115 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:29 am to
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And currently he has no shot at the NBA because his only strength is blocking average to below average guards



I disagree. He's not NBA ready as of now, but I think he has the tools currently that could be developed more and his game could translate to the NBA.
Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:31 am to
Isn't he a 2nd rounder? Just curious
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:31 am to
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I disagree. He's not NBA ready as of now, but I think he has the tools currently that could be developed more and his game could translate to the NBA.



Yep, I think his ceiling is a little higher than most are giving him credit for. By no means do I think he's Anthony Davis, but I can see him slowly improving his offense like him if he puts the work in for it since he's already got a fairly strong defensive prowess. Needs to add some strength so he doesn't get pushed around. I'd love for him to do all that here, but I can certainly see him trying to do that while making money somewhere else in the world before a real NBA shot.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40131 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:32 am to
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he's not gonna get a dime from any NBA teams, but i guess 70K per year overseas untaxed is attracting him

For someone not coming from money (unsure of Mickey's situation), that is quite a bit of money. I wish he'd come back for selfish reasons, but honestly can't fault the guy if he needs to support his family. I don't see what he stands to gain from another year at LSU in terms of his draft stock.
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:33 am to
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I don't see what he stands to gain from another year at LSU in terms of his draft stock.


Playing on a much higher stage with the insane talent coming in, potentially playing for it all once again in March, and hopefully staying healthy and getting stronger with a better team to prove he can get drafted and play in the NBA.
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
15995 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:33 am to
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I was saying I think he will make an NBA team now


I'm not trying to be a dick, but how could you possibly think this?

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as I have a feeling the scoring load will be divided among the new guys as well.


The NBA doesn't care about totals. Normally, scoring or some elite attribute is because of talent. Mickey plays a crazy amount of minutes and gets a ridiculous amount of touches. NBA GM's and coaches see this. By the same logic, Kentucky's players won't make a team because they don't score.

Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72115 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:34 am to
he's been projected as a 2nd rounder and also projected to go undrafted. No way to know really.

Brag, the strength issue is the first thing that comes to mind for me too. strength and sharpening his mid range game would do a lot for his career.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10085 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:34 am to
I think we should wait to critique his decision until he actually makes it. Leaning toward the NBA more than likely means he will go if he is given a favorable draft grade/outlook. If they come back and say his chances of making it are slim to none, I seriously doubt he makes the leap.
Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
9979 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:35 am to
Jordan needs to follow Cauley-Stein's example.
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
15995 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:35 am to
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Isn't he a 2nd rounder? Just curious


No, currently almost unanimously he is being considered as not getting drafted.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
170519 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:35 am to
the prudent things for these borderline guys to do is declare, not hire an agent, go thru the process so in a worst case scenario you get your name and profile out there with all the teams who can put together a more intimate profile on you and not just a scouting profile. go to the workouts, camps, do interviews, etc. then unless you get a promise from a team (and even those dont always hold up) you come back to school and take that feedback and use it to get better.

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