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re: Jordan Mickey leaning toward NBA
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:36 am to bbap
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:36 am to bbap
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would leave if i was Mickey. Playing in Europe can be pretty awesome. And he will make ok money.
He'll likely be in the same position next year.
I would be a hard decision and I love lsu. There are certainly reasons for him to go that people in this thread are ignoring
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:38 am to LSUButt
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I'm not trying to be a dick, but how could you possibly think this?
I don't know how you could possibly think he has no chance. It's pretty well known that Mickey has been projected as a 1st and a 2nd rounder. Will that happen? idk. But his game translates well to how most NBA teams play. He runs the floor, has good footwork, plays good defense, is a ball hawk, and is pretty athletic. He needs to put on some lbs and work on his mid range shot and I think he'll make some money.
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The NBA doesn't care about totals. Normally, scoring or some elite attribute is because of talent. Mickey plays a crazy amount of minutes and gets a ridiculous amount of touches. NBA GM's and coaches see this. By the same logic, Kentucky's players won't make a team because they don't score.
I wasn't using that logic. I was saying that if he sees he's not going to get as many touches, and can go develop somewhere the same as he could at LSU, but get paid for it, why not?
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 11:39 am
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:38 am to Brageous
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Playing on a much higher stage with the insane talent coming in, potentially playing for it all once again in March, and hopefully staying healthy and getting stronger with a better team to prove he can get drafted and play in the NBA.
So... Basically exposure?
You don't think leading the SEC in blocks this year and being second to Willy Cauley-Stein last year got him exposure? People know what he can do.
The problem is he's 6'7" and doesn't have a consistently decent outside game, nor is he big enough to bang around on the inside at the NBA level.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 11:40 am
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:39 am to S
I have no problem in him declaring and not hiring an agent. Because I'm confident in what they will tell him. However, I think this time if he declares he's declaring all the way
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:39 am to lsu2006
I will say this...
70k may be a nice salary for him, but is it really that much more than he is currently getting?
Tuition for an OOS per year is $26,476.
Housing and meal plan probably come out to at least 12k.
Books and other supplies given to him another 2k a year.
So he is at least getting 40k in benefits for his education and I'd bet it's much, much more than that. Not to mention he has a stable situation. Going overseas to play basketball may sound like a good way to improve your game, but how will he handle the different environment, languages, money, etc.
There is a lot less risk to staying at LSU to improve his game. He can also earn a college degree, which would help Mickey even if basketball doesn't pan out.
70k may be a nice salary for him, but is it really that much more than he is currently getting?
Tuition for an OOS per year is $26,476.
Housing and meal plan probably come out to at least 12k.
Books and other supplies given to him another 2k a year.
So he is at least getting 40k in benefits for his education and I'd bet it's much, much more than that. Not to mention he has a stable situation. Going overseas to play basketball may sound like a good way to improve your game, but how will he handle the different environment, languages, money, etc.
There is a lot less risk to staying at LSU to improve his game. He can also earn a college degree, which would help Mickey even if basketball doesn't pan out.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:40 am to LSUButt
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And currently he has no shot at the NBA because his only strength is blocking average to below average guards
Wow your dumb
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:40 am to MegaTiger3
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He will NEVER be a solid NBA contributor. Should be a 4 year player but money talks
same thing that was said about Brandon Bass and Glenn Davis and both were not 1st round draft picks
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 11:41 am
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:40 am to SouthOfSouth
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but is it really that much more than he is currently getting?
Yes.
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Tuition for an OOS per year is $26,476.
Housing and meal plan probably come out to at least 12k.
Books and other supplies given to him another 2k a year.
You can't deposit this in a bank account and send a check to your family.
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He can also earn a college degree, which would help Mickey even if basketball doesn't pan out.
Or he could try basketball while he's young and go back and get his degree if it doesn't pan out.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 11:42 am
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:41 am to lsufan251875
quote:You know, I get tired of this bullshite answer. Any student can go work offshore and "make money", as compared to staying in college and getting their degree. Do you also recommend that pathway to non-athletes?
Because this is the Rant, where they want every player to stay 4 years because it helps the team, but they are dogshit players if they try to make money off it.
Sure, in Mickey's case he might make money playing basketball (I guess his dream), but is living in another country his dream too?
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:41 am to lsu2006
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doesn't have a consistently decent outside game, nor is he big enough to bang around on the inside at the NBA leve
I agree with this but he can develop in these areas and get paid to do it. I mean, he will likely get picked up by an NBA team. Most people outside of this board think Mickey will get drafted. DraftXpress has him at the 45th overall pick.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:42 am to cas4t
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I agree with this but he can develop in these areas and get paid to do it.
Indeed.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:43 am to lsu2006
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You can't deposit this in a bank account and send a check to your family.
You can't really do all that much of this with 70k a year either...
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Or he could try basketball while he's young and go back and get his degree if it doesn't pan out.
And then pay 40k a year for it? LOL
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:43 am to Scoob
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but is living in another country his dream too?
No but money is and that will make a person do anything
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:43 am to SouthOfSouth
It sounds great to everyone here about going overseas because you get to go and explore and all this stuff. But if Mickey needs money that bad, then he's probably never been out of the country. To say it will be a culture shock is an understatement.
Sure, going to play in Spain or Italy would be sweet, but he will probably end up in Turkey, Lithuania, or some Eastern European country...which would not be cool
Sure, going to play in Spain or Italy would be sweet, but he will probably end up in Turkey, Lithuania, or some Eastern European country...which would not be cool
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:43 am to Scoob
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Do you also recommend that pathway to non-athletes?
If that's what they want to do, then yes. College isn't for everyone. It's a common fallacy that everyone should go to college IMO. Plenty of trades out there. But that's another discussion.
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(I guess his dream)
you guess it's his dream? Come on.
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but is living in another country his dream too?
you think 1 more year at LSU is really going to propel him by leaps and bounds? I don't.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:45 am to Hooligan's Ghost
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same thing that was said about Brandon Bass and Glenn Davis and both were not 1st round draft picks
Awful examples. Go back and watch them play, then watch Jordan Mickey. Come talk to me then
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:45 am to SouthOfSouth
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You can't really do all that much of this with 70k a year either...
You can do quite a bit more with 70k than 0K.
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And then pay 40k a year for it? LOL
You can't be serious. You think LSU will make him pay full out of state tuition/books/board if he leaves early?
I know you want Mickey back. I do too. But try and be objective about it.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 11:46 am
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:46 am to LSUButt
I mean now we are just jumping to assumptions of what he is and isn't ok with. None of us know that. 
Not to mention he could end up staying the NBA. Yall are downplaying his abilities IMO.
Not to mention he could end up staying the NBA. Yall are downplaying his abilities IMO.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:46 am to LSUButt
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To say it will be a culture shock is an understatement.
yea i have some great stories
but tbf, he would probably land on one of the better teams in spain or italy. the further east you go, the more sketchy it gets in terms of pay and lifestyle.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:46 am to Hermit Crab
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Average overseas players can get a $65,000 contract with ease. Depending on the league that players get into in Europe, salaries can start as high as $100,000.
ok apparently my#'s are a little off.
big deal, some people just hate school. fact is, he's still getting paid to play basketball. 2 other posters made good points as well: -We already know Mickey's ceiling, coming back isn't going to suddenly vault him into the 1st round
-Living expenses are paid for overseas
so, your options are go overseas and make a nice salary, improve your game against better players then hopefully latch onto an NBA team the following year
or come back to school in which you don't necessarily like, make zero money, then get drafted at best 2nd round which has no better chance of making it on a team than the former.
I appreciate Mickey for coming here, and I would love to have him back. As far as what's in his best interest, I truly think it's 50/50. There are pros and cons for each, but 90% of you think it's stupid.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 11:48 am
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