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re: Keiland Problems?
Posted on 8/11/08 at 11:49 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/11/08 at 11:49 am to SlowFlowPro
Which is why the preaseason NFL draft boards aren't the best indicators. Look at Anthony Dixon. He's a 6th rounder? He plays for State. If we had him, he'd be our primary back. The kid's a stud...and a lot of those #'s and times are from last season.
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Posted on 8/11/08 at 11:51 am to LSUpsychWARD
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haha, you have yet to show it.
ha, based on one post that YOU disagree with?
Posted on 8/11/08 at 11:52 am to PiscesTiger
Heard all the first three TBs were sub 4.5 in the 40 (?? how low KW went ??) and even Ridley was 4.53. We talk about the backs so much because of having so many good ones and I think you will see something like last year, with each TB used in situations that favor each. Think of it this way.. you got 200+ carries that Hester had that have to be given to the bunch we have and their skills will be easier to see. At the fan's day Sunday KW and CS looked big, #45 was unbelieveable in size (I think he will get some more totes), and Murphy surprised me how small he looked , weight-wise. This is going to be an exciting year.
Posted on 8/11/08 at 11:53 am to HITMAN202
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#45 was unbelieveable in size
That's because that's Quinn Johnson... ex-LB playing fullback.
Posted on 8/11/08 at 11:54 am to PiscesTiger
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Now go bounce for ecstasy
Isn't that my turf?
Posted on 8/11/08 at 11:56 am to Mr Clean
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Isn't that my turf?
haha, good to see you sat night bro. That red tie party was insane. Two idiots got fired and we were already short staffed. We threw out half the club throughout the night.
Posted on 8/11/08 at 11:56 am to Mr Clean
What did you think of Murphy's size? Also Johnson is at 260 or more and at FB that still is huge!!
Posted on 8/11/08 at 12:01 pm to wahoocs
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Your agenda is individual based.
how? I dont know Keiland, i didn't go his high school, i could give a frick about his family, etc etc.
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When you cannot enjoy the team's success because an individual is not more successful than another, to the point of calling for "big game fumbles being due" from certain players, you have the issues.
if you couldn't read the sarcasm in that comment, you are too far gone in rantardom to be saved. And who says i can't enjoy the team's success? I was fairly happy at that little BCS game and Keiland only got 2 carries (10 yards each btw).
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And that is your right. You don't have to be anti-Keiland Williams to be pro-team.
I'm not one to think coaches are above criticism, I've done my fair share. I would think, based upon the play on Saturdays only, that KW would get more PT, but I have to assume there is a legitimate reason he is not.
Or I could assume a conspiracy. Even go as far as to think it is due to his skin color, and nothing to do with football. They would call me a ranter.
for the record the white bias on this issue is from the rant perspective not the coaches. The coaching bias here is just playing favorites.
Posted on 8/11/08 at 12:05 pm to HITMAN202
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with each TB used in situations that favor each.
well pretty much
ridley = scott and murphy = KW
last year murphy's plays were the same ones that KW ran, and Scott got the same plays as Hester (KW got a few also)
i juts don't see what murphy brings to the table that KW doesn't
Posted on 8/11/08 at 12:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
Again the season will answer all these questions/opinions but it is going to be interesting to see what the scrimmages bring out. How many scrimmages will there be before AppState and how many plays are there going to be at each scrimmage?
Posted on 8/11/08 at 12:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
On the KW makes defenders miss in the open field category:
1) When you need open field to be successful, this limits your success
2) When the defense only has to defend the area outside the tackles, where KW excels, your odds of success decrease
3) If the defense is successful enough to put you in passing situations, blocking becomes the most important part of success
I don't fault your reasoning for wanting KW to touch the ball more often, I just think we differ on what can be more successful for the team and its accomplishments.
I didn't like tossing the ball to Hester in any situation last year, but the threat of doing it has an effect on how the defense aligns and the reaction time of those defenders.
1) When you need open field to be successful, this limits your success
2) When the defense only has to defend the area outside the tackles, where KW excels, your odds of success decrease
3) If the defense is successful enough to put you in passing situations, blocking becomes the most important part of success
I don't fault your reasoning for wanting KW to touch the ball more often, I just think we differ on what can be more successful for the team and its accomplishments.
I didn't like tossing the ball to Hester in any situation last year, but the threat of doing it has an effect on how the defense aligns and the reaction time of those defenders.
Posted on 8/11/08 at 12:33 pm to wahoocs
Far out, man.
Posted on 8/11/08 at 12:35 pm to Maximus
I don't know how I could have mistaken sarcasm in your comment with all of the anti-Hesterism you spew, but if that's the case, I apologize and must give you more credit.
I don't sit and search your comments enough to get a read on that, I guess.
I think the heart of this argument is very simple at its core. You still don't trust Miles' judgement. I didn't after Tenn '05 and was not willing to give him any credit, until the Peach Bowl.
I'm not saying I understand everything he does, but he's earned my respect enough to give him the benefit of the doubt.
I don't sit and search your comments enough to get a read on that, I guess.
I think the heart of this argument is very simple at its core. You still don't trust Miles' judgement. I didn't after Tenn '05 and was not willing to give him any credit, until the Peach Bowl.
I'm not saying I understand everything he does, but he's earned my respect enough to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Posted on 8/11/08 at 12:48 pm to LSUpsychWARD
That's a pretty shitty list to have Scott ranked that low and a guy like Damion Fletcher or PJ Hill ranked that high.
get lost with that shite
get lost with that shite
Posted on 8/11/08 at 12:51 pm to HITMAN202
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The "fists" issue? Ask around.
my roommate is on the team and this is the 1st i've heard of it
Posted on 8/11/08 at 12:56 pm to Lester Earl
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That's a pretty shitty list to have Scott ranked that low and a guy like Damion Fletcher or PJ Hill ranked that high.
get lost with that shite
haha, ok try Walter's 2009 running back list. Another guy with plenty of knowledge on NFL talent ranks Keiland just about the same. But, you're right, these guys are the ones that know nothing.
2010 RBrankings
5. Keiland Williams, LSU
Height: 5-11. Weight: 224.
Projected 40 Time: 4.48.
Projected Round (2010): 1-2.
5/21/08: The "Round 1-2" tag is based solely on potential, as Keiland Williams greatest carry total was 10 last year. With Jacob Hester gone, however, Williams is going to have to carry the load now. He certainly has the size, speed and skill to be successful doing so; the 224-pounder maintains a 4.4 40 and a career yards-per-carry average of 6.2.
25. Charles Scott, LSU
Height: 5-11. Weight: 221.
Projected 40 Time: 4.57.
Projected Round (2010): 6.
7/25/08: Should take over for Jacob Hester as LSU's power back. Charles Scott totaled 324 yards and five touchdowns in relief duty last season. He also caught 12 passes out of the backfield, which is solid for a back of his size.
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Posted on 8/11/08 at 12:58 pm to Maximus
basically KW needs to know everything he is supposed to do on every play and then be able to completely execute those responsibilities
if he isnt as high up on the chart as some think he should be then it is probably more along the lines of Crowton's comfort level with KW's mastery of his responsibilities and not an ability issue
fwiw
if he isnt as high up on the chart as some think he should be then it is probably more along the lines of Crowton's comfort level with KW's mastery of his responsibilities and not an ability issue
fwiw
Posted on 8/11/08 at 1:01 pm to LSUpsychWARD
Never use Walter's lists. Its a joke. They have Richard Dickson listed as a FB and the successor to Jacob Hester. Plus, they have Byrd and Lafell ranked way too low. Actually I could type a paper on how bad that site is 
Posted on 8/11/08 at 1:04 pm to joechristoppher77
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Never use Walter's lists. Its a joke. They have Richard Dickson listed as a FB and the successor to Jacob Hester. Plus, they have Byrd and Lafell ranked way too low. Actually I could type a paper on how bad that site is
Well they can't agree with the NFL scouts at draftscout so I'm just trying to find someone that they can somewhat agree with. Apparently everyone else knows something we all don't.
Posted on 8/11/08 at 1:06 pm to LSUpsychWARD
That list is even worse if he is 25th
Im not saying Scott should be ranked higher, but to have him that low is a joke, especially with some of hte guys ahead of them.
Projected rankings like these are hardly ever correct. Talk to me after the season
Im not saying Scott should be ranked higher, but to have him that low is a joke, especially with some of hte guys ahead of them.
Projected rankings like these are hardly ever correct. Talk to me after the season
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