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re: Lack of stars in MLB from LSU
Posted on 2/16/13 at 10:13 am to Lsupimp
Posted on 2/16/13 at 10:13 am to Lsupimp
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Contrary to what you believe, it is not a jobs program for Americans. It is an athletic meritocracy. If the "foreigners" were banned the quality of the product would be downgraded TREMENDOUSLY, and I for one want to see the best players in the world, not the best guys who went to LSU.
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Posted on 2/16/13 at 10:14 am to coldhotwings
Screw being politically correct! We tried that and all it brought was 2 miserable WBC losses! No more Mr. Nice Guy with those sneaky bastards!!!!
Posted on 2/16/13 at 10:16 am to Doc Fenton
Well this thread was hijacked 
Posted on 2/16/13 at 10:19 am to bigeztiger
Hey, what the hell, ya know?
Since I almost never venture over to the MSB, I might as well dump the provisional USA roster ( LINK)...
EDIT:
Ex-College Players (15)
RHP - R.A. Dickey (Tennessee)
LHP - Derek Holland (Wallace State CC)
RHP - Craig Kimbrel (Wallace State CC)
RHP - Chris Perez (Miami-FL)
RHP - Vinnie Pestano (CS-Fullerton)
LHP - Glen Perkins (Minnesota)
RHP - Ryan Vogelsong (Kutztown = D2)
RHP - Mitchell Boggs (Georgia)
RHP - Steve Cishek (Carson-Newman = D2)
C - J.P. Arencibia (Tennessee)
C - Jonathan Lucroy (ULL)
1B - Mark Teixeira (Georgia Tech)
2B - Ben Zobrist (Dallas Baptist)
SS - Willie Bloomquist (Arizona State)
OF - Ryan Braun (Miami-FL)
Non-College Players (12)
RHP - Kris Medlen
LHP - Jeremy Affeldt
RHP - Heath Bell
LHP - Tim Collins
RHP - Luke Gregerson
C - Joe Mauer
2B - Brandon Phillips
3B - David Wright
SS - Jimmy Rollins
OF - Giancarlo Stanton
CF - Adam Jones
OF - Shane Victorino
Since I almost never venture over to the MSB, I might as well dump the provisional USA roster ( LINK)...
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DURHAM, N.C. -- Outfielders Ryan Braun of Milwaukee, Giancarlo Stanton of Miami and Adam Jones of Baltimore and Cy Young Award winner R.A. Dickey headline the United States' provisional roster for the upcoming World Baseball Classic.
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• Caple: U.S. needs passion, commitment
USA Baseball is allowed up to 28 players on the provisional roster and has 27. The roster can change due to injuries, etc., but each country's federation must submit a final 28-man roster, including a minimum of 13 pitchers and two catchers, by Feb. 20. Team USA's roster, by position, is as follows:
Pitchers: Dickey, Toronto; Derek Holland, Texas; Craig Kimbrel and Kris Medlen, Atlanta; Chris Perez and Vinnie Pestano, Cleveland; Glen Perkins, Minnesota; Ryan Vogelsong and Jeremy Affeldt, San Francisco; Heath Bell, Arizona; Mitchell Boggs, St. Louis; Steve Cishek, Miami; Tim Collins, Kansas City; Luke Gregerson, San Diego.
Outfielders: Braun; Stanton; Jones; Shane Victorino, Boston.
Infielders: David Wright, Mets; Brandon Phillips, Cincinnati; Jimmy Rollins, Philadelphia; Mark Teixeira, Yankees; Ben Zobrist, Tampa Bay; Willie Bloomquist, Arizona.
Catchers: Joe Mauer, Minnesota; J.P. Arencibia, Toronto; Jonathan Lucroy, Milwaukee.
"Having talked to all of these players I sense a great deal of excitement about representing the United States in the World Baseball Classic," Team USA manager Joe Torre said. "I share their excitement and look forward to managing this talented group in March."
Torre's coaching staff for the WBC includes Larry Bowa (bench), Marcel Lachemann (bullpen/pitching), Greg Maddux (pitching), Dale Murphy (first base), Gerald Perry (hitting) and Willie Randolph (third base).
Team USA will play its first-round games as part of Pool D at Chase Field in Phoenix from March 8-10. Canada, Mexico and Italy also are in Pool D.
EDIT:
Ex-College Players (15)
RHP - R.A. Dickey (Tennessee)
LHP - Derek Holland (Wallace State CC)
RHP - Craig Kimbrel (Wallace State CC)
RHP - Chris Perez (Miami-FL)
RHP - Vinnie Pestano (CS-Fullerton)
LHP - Glen Perkins (Minnesota)
RHP - Ryan Vogelsong (Kutztown = D2)
RHP - Mitchell Boggs (Georgia)
RHP - Steve Cishek (Carson-Newman = D2)
C - J.P. Arencibia (Tennessee)
C - Jonathan Lucroy (ULL)
1B - Mark Teixeira (Georgia Tech)
2B - Ben Zobrist (Dallas Baptist)
SS - Willie Bloomquist (Arizona State)
OF - Ryan Braun (Miami-FL)
Non-College Players (12)
RHP - Kris Medlen
LHP - Jeremy Affeldt
RHP - Heath Bell
LHP - Tim Collins
RHP - Luke Gregerson
C - Joe Mauer
2B - Brandon Phillips
3B - David Wright
SS - Jimmy Rollins
OF - Giancarlo Stanton
CF - Adam Jones
OF - Shane Victorino
This post was edited on 2/16/13 at 10:39 am
Posted on 2/16/13 at 10:20 am to Doc Fenton
Nothing sneaky about putting in their best players because of national pride. If the US players and owners felt the same way, the American team would be much more competitive.
Just so you know, I currently live in Japan and to call someone here a Jap bastard is like a Japanese guy dropping an N-bomb.
Just so you know, I currently live in Japan and to call someone here a Jap bastard is like a Japanese guy dropping an N-bomb.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 10:22 am to Doc Fenton
That roster looks better than ones I've seen in the past.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 10:26 am to bigeztiger
America's game? That's what I was told it was. They should at least be citizens.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 10:30 am to Doc Fenton
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Jap bastards.
Were you in "The Big One"?
Posted on 2/16/13 at 10:31 am to ruger
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America's game? That's what I was told it was. They should at least be citizens.
Citizens or not, I'd bet they're all paying more in U.S. taxes than you do.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 10:31 am to ruger
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Define best.
Seriously?
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You can't tell me they are that much better than American players.
Apparently they are since they populate a large portion of MLB rosters.
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How come we don't see the same influx in the NFL
Again, seriously? Soccer dominates in Latin American countries (and the majority of countries around the world) ... do they even play American football there?
Not only are you racist, but you're extremely ignorant.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 10:40 am to High C
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Were you in "The Big One"?
No, but I did watch the movie Gung Ho, so I do feel like an authority on the subject in some respects.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 10:42 am to bigeztiger
..a large portion of MLB players come straight from HS , the "high draft choices" who go into the MLB Minor League System and work their way to the Bigs. Facts are - the very best baseball players never get to college. In addition , the last decade or so , more and international players coming into the league. Just look at the rosters. Just my observations. 
Posted on 2/16/13 at 10:42 am to coldhotwings
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That roster looks better than ones I've seen in the past.
I just did a breakdown showing that 15 were drafted from college, and 12 were straight from HS. The team is obviously not necessarily the best of the best of U.S.-born talent, but it would seem to be a good representative sample of non-foreign players.
Of the 15 from college, 11 played college at the NCAA D1 level.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 10:46 am to GeauxGus
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Just my observations.
Which are wrong, but nonetheless get repeated endlessly on the Rant because they are conventional wisdom. Thanks for sharing.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 10:59 am to bigeztiger
With Mahtook and Mitchell coming up quickly, we should have a few more up there shortly.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 11:07 am to Doc Fenton
As someone who HAS lived and worked in Japan with those "Jap Bastages", and with a Japanese family no less, and as someone with a deep abiding respect for it's culture and people, I'd like to say that the following is funny as hell:
No, but I did watch the movie Gung Ho, so I do feel like an authority on the subject in some respects.
No, but I did watch the movie Gung Ho, so I do feel like an authority on the subject in some respects.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 11:11 am to Lsupimp
Posted on 2/16/13 at 11:13 am to bigeztiger
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I guess the same question could be asked for football too.
No, the same question could not be asked for football. LSU has the 3rd highest amount of NFL players behind USC and Cal.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 11:25 am to Lsupimp
Yes. Yes, it was.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 11:34 am to bigeztiger
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Lack of stars in MLB from LSU
Two pages and it hasn't been said: MLB hates LSU.
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