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re: Laser, optical, electronic strike zone
Posted on 6/25/09 at 6:24 pm to ShowMeTheMoney7
Posted on 6/25/09 at 6:24 pm to ShowMeTheMoney7
quote:Are you honestly suggesting that Major League pitchers cannot hit a strike zone as described in the rules?
If there was a rigid strikezone as you rule book nazis are suggesting and crying for...then you would have an exciting game of batters standing in the box with the bat on their shoulders waiting for your "rule book" pitch...
And you have actually questioned someone else's knowledge or expertise in baseball? Dude, I SUCK at baseball and haven't given two shits about a baseball game outside of LSU in over twenty years, and even I know that pitchers can easily throw a ball that is over the plate and between the knees and armpits of a batter.
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Posted on 6/25/09 at 6:25 pm to ShowMeTheMoney7
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Kills me that you can go to brcc and come post on the rant all day and act like you went to the school.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 6:27 pm to ShowMeTheMoney7
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Undergrad, masters, and law.
Let's hope you're a better debater in court than you are here. Your arguments are absurd.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 6:27 pm to LA007
quote:Seriously? You think a guy that believes its impossible for a pitcher to hit a real strike zone actually did pitch?
I take it you were a pitcher... however
My guess would be bitter, failed pitcher . . . probably at the little league level . . . and has adopted the "umpires' discretion" defense to explain why he couldn't hack it as a pitcher.
Either that, or he was a big shot pitcher in little league or high school, when his dad was the umpire, and is pissed off that the higher level umps didn't "adjust" their strike zone with their "judgment" to let him dominate like he did pitching for old Dad.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 6:28 pm to Rex
national ranked in high school debate and paid for all my school....
how's kinkos?
how's kinkos?
Posted on 6/25/09 at 6:30 pm to ShowMeTheMoney7
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A little humor never hurt anyone...whether you like it or not
Oh, I like humor, or I wouldn't be here, and you provided much of it. I was taking up for your penultimate point, and this is the thanks I get....
Posted on 6/25/09 at 6:30 pm to ShowMeTheMoney7
quote:Yes, I am, because there is no alternative available that achieves the goal of getting me to work while completely eliminating the possibility of a wreck.
You could get in a car accident, are you still going to drive to work in the morning.
If such an option were available, would you still choose the option that might result in getting into a wreck?
quote:Why? Why would they be analyzed or evaluated? What are they being evaluated for? The accuracy of their strike zone is irrelevant since there is no value in getting correct calls rather than incorrect ones (according to you). So why bother evaluating or analyzing them?
Umpires are trained, schooled, analyzed, evaluated, and ridiculed.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 6:31 pm to ShowMeTheMoney7
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Either that, or he was a big shot pitcher in little league or high school, when his dad was the umpire, and is pissed off that the higher level umps didn't "adjust" their strike zone with their "judgment" to let him dominate like he did pitching for old Dad.
I will say that everyone has crafty arguments. This was actually a good funny point.
I played 4 years at varsity level in 5a...had some smaller college offers but gave it up to go to LSU.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 6:31 pm to FrisceauxTiger
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how this a-hole:
removing the human element from the calling of balls and strikes would destroy part of what makes baseball great. an umpire's emotions, his feel for the pace and character of a particular game influence his strike zone, like it or not. the image of a batter with the catcher and ump behind the plate is iconic. its American. I think it would be pretty ridiculous to change that and I doubt few would disagree. especially those of us that have actually played baseball.
The umpires job is to call people out or safe and balls and strikes. Oh, and for "those of you that played baseball" The strike zone is supposed to be the area of the plate from the batters knees to his shoulders. NOT from mid thigh to mid chest and what ever the particular umpire says is a strike past the outside corner or inside corner of the plate. I have watched the erosion and mutation of the strike zone from the mid 50s on. It is helping to bastardize the great sport of baseball.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 6:32 pm to Rex
This has to be some kind of prank. He's just spouting off shite for attention
Or, he's an a-hole lawyer used to winning in court by posturing and profundity rather than facts and law. Fooling the ump into thinking a ball is a strike, in other words.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 6:33 pm to ShowMeTheMoney7
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Oh, I like humor, or I wouldn't be here, and you provided much of it. I was taking up for your penultimate point, and this is the thanks I get....
Haha, I know what you meant. I was referring to the others calling me a bafoon.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 6:33 pm to AZBayouBengal07
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Curt Schilling says NO!
A hack who made a living throwing low and inside pitches that should have been called balls. What a surprise that he would not want the strike zone as defined by the rules to be called.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 6:33 pm to ShowMeTheMoney7
quote:And you are honestly suggesting that you could not hit a strike zone as described in the rules? It's not that far away, and it is a pretty big target to hit . . .
I played 4 years at varsity level in 5a...had some smaller college offers but gave it up to go to LSU.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 6:34 pm to Ragged Tiger
My guess is that he goes into court hoping for O.J.-type juries.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 6:34 pm to King Joey
Nah. He's taken his lumps. I'm just not being nasty tonight. I can see the intrigue of skilled pitchers enjoying a floating, dynamic strike zone more so than hitters. That's about it.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 6:37 pm to Rex
of course pitchers CAN hit the strike zone...if they couldn't then they wouldn't be pitchers...but if theres no grey area to work with then batters will either wait to walk...or sit there and tee off all day.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 6:38 pm to Rex
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The umpires job is to call people out or safe and balls and strikes. Oh, and for "those of you that played baseball" The strike zone is supposed to be the area of the plate from the batters knees to his shoulders. NOT from mid thigh to mid chest and what ever the particular umpire says is a strike past the outside corner or inside corner of the plate. I have watched the erosion and mutation of the strike zone from the mid 50s on. It is helping to bastardize the great sport of baseball.
I agree. Baseball doesn't seem to be on the up and up sometimes. I remember Glavine and Maddux for the Braves got like 4-6 inches off the plate b/c they were known control pitchers. shite they just started reviewing HRs in MLB. Are they worried they'll hurt those fat arse umpires feelings?
Posted on 6/25/09 at 6:38 pm to ShowMeTheMoney7
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national ranked in high school debate and paid for all my school....
Yes, I can see this now.
Resolved: You're a tool.
Case points:
1.Your wife probably prefers machinery rather than your lil pecker.
2.You're probably 5'8" or shorter.
I rest my case. What do I win?
Posted on 6/25/09 at 6:39 pm to LA007
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I can see the intrigue of skilled pitchers enjoying a floating, dynamic strike zone more so than hitters. That's about it.
I could see it too. Too bad a "floating, dynamic" strike zone does not exist by the rules of baseball. I would settle for the enforcement of the rules in leu of a mechanical ump. Now, hows that for fair, sonnyboy.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 6:40 pm to ShowMeTheMoney7
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of course pitchers CAN hit the strike zone...if they couldn't then they wouldn't be pitchers...but if theres no grey area to work with then batters will either wait to walk...or sit there and tee off all day.
there is no deception in pitching
i actually think the pitchers would have an advantage with this
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