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Posted on 3/28/11 at 11:22 pm to
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 3/28/11 at 11:22 pm to
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I base my JJ prediction on the fact that seniority always wins out in the season opener.
Since when?
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Everyone in this thread that disputes seniority over talent uses Jai Eugene as an example
And Jarrett Lee.

And Chris Tolliver.

And all the other WR's that Randle played in front of. . .ditto R-Shep.

PP has been a full time starter since midway through his true frosh campaign.

Big Poppa, Reid, T-Rex. . .

How about Ridley over Murphy?
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 3/28/11 at 11:24 pm to
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I think he was a little lackadaisical because he knew he didn't have anybody behind him"


This quote is pretty disturbing..







No, what is disturbing is that Peterson, a guy who's heart should have been questioned in multiple situations last year, feels like he has the right to make these kinds of statements.


I agree with that. It is much more disturbing that Peterson feels he can make such a statement than anything that it says about Jefferson or Lee. Who in the hell does he think he is?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 3/28/11 at 11:25 pm to
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Comparing Jefferson with Cam is insanity at its highest!


He's comparing Mett to Cam.

And it is a terrible comparison.

Similarities have nothing to do with their ability.

Both booted for behavior issues
Both went to JUCO
Both went to SEC West schools.
Both play QB.
Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 3/28/11 at 11:47 pm to
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He's comparing Mett to Cam.




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And it is a terrible comparison.


Really?

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Both booted for behavior issues
Both went to JUCO
Both went to SEC West schools.
Both play QB.


Seems like a pretty good comparison. You forgot both came from SEC East schools btw.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 3/28/11 at 11:51 pm to
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Seems like a pretty good comparison.
Both Burt Reynolds and I played football in HS.

I doubt I will ever be a famous actor, though.

Similar paths say absolutely nothing about a person's ability and/or talent level.

I seriously doubt Mett could hold Cam's jock with both hands.
Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 3/29/11 at 12:02 am to
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Similar paths say absolutely nothing about a person's ability and/or talent level.


You completely took my post out of context. This is what I was responding to with my post:

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solid experience is clearly a key factor in determining success


To which I pointed out that Mett and Cam had THE EXACT SAME PATH. Both went to SEC East schools, got booted, went JUCO, and then went to SEC West schools. What experience did Cam have that gave him an advantage over Mett? In fact Mett studied under Richt which is actually an advantage. I even said in my post, "I'm not saying Mett = Cam".

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I seriously doubt Mett could hold Cam's jock with both hands.


This post was edited on 3/29/11 at 12:04 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 3/29/11 at 12:10 am to
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I agree with that. It is much more disturbing that Peterson feels he can make such a statement than anything that it says about Jefferson or Lee. Who in the hell does he think he is?


Yeah, he needs to keep that kind of stuff quiet. I know what he was doing, and he was trying to say that JJ will have more motivation this year. Still, you don't go there.
Posted by TaserTiger
Houston
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/29/11 at 12:44 am to
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What Les is saying is not so much to the media or the fans as it is to LSU recruits. What he is saying is that I am loyal (to a fault) and if you come to LSU, you will come to know that loyalty. This is the genius of Les. He may cost himself a few battles with this attitude but he continues to excel in the recruiting wars because 17 and 18 year old kids want to play for a coach like this.


This!!! Les knows "where it's at"!!



Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/29/11 at 7:14 am to
Imagine if miles just goes with the same format as last year...

Jefferson - first two series
Lee - one series
Jefferson - a lot of other series
Mett - one series
Jefferson - 2 series
Lee - 2 minute drill
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 3/29/11 at 7:20 am to
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What experience did Cam Newton have before this year?


as much, or more than the other alternatives at Auburn... in addition, I said experience is a "key factor", meaning there are other factors.

Posted by LuzianaFootball
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Posted on 3/29/11 at 10:27 am to
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negative. JJ probably won 2 games at most. Defense and special teams won 7 or 8 games.


You're right. Everytime the offense took the field the center just snapped the ball and it magically appeared in ridley and tolliver's hand.

Your favorite movies must my casper, the 6th man, angel in the out field, and ghost.

The starting QB gets the win(period) JJ's record at LSU is pretty damn good, as the starting QB.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 3/29/11 at 10:38 am to
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Jefferson - first two series
Lee - one series
Jefferson - a lot of other series
Mett - one series
Jefferson - 2 series
Lee - 2 minute drill



I know you're joking, but I do wonder how Les will handle playing time for all 3 QBs. This is where I think Les's "loyalty" might negatively come in to play. Not in who he starts, but I think he might be more willing to reward Lee for sticking around by giving him more mop-up duty than Mett(assuming JJ clearly wins the starting job).


If we get into a situation like last year though, where we need someone to bail us out, I'd imagine that would be Mett.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/29/11 at 10:42 am to
I'm half joking...

I think that could very well end up a possibility of the QB situation.

Maybe it was Gary who had the "no rhyme or reason" approach to the qb situation..

Whoever it was, it drove most fans I know up the wall.
Posted by jdrumdog
baton rouge, la
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/29/11 at 10:49 am to
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I don't particularly care who pevails in this little rhetorical skirmish, but you are grotesquely simplifying your adversary's argument. I can only imagine you are doing so intentionally. No one is seriously contending that Miles "wanted to lose" or is "intentionally" starting inferior players. Rather, the more compelling argument (or troubling argument, depending upon your perspective) is that Miles allows his personal allegiances to skew his player assessment. It isn't that he knows JJ is the lesser QB and consciously makes a decision to play him nonetheless. Rather, the issue is that Miles' objective player evaluation is undermined by his genuine emotional attachment to upperclassmen. That is, he really regards JJ as the better QB because he wants JJ to succeed, irrespective of whether or not the empirical evidence supports that conclusion.

I'm not personally endorsing the argument I set forth above, but I think it is the one you need to confront. In my opinion, you can't dismiss the notion that MIles favors upperclassmen as the mindless blathering of people who think Miles "wants to lose."


In cases such as this, you might as well lump Roaad in with Uncommon Cents. They don't get it, they will never get it, so arguing with them is pretty pointless. Not exactly reasonable people.
Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
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Posted on 3/29/11 at 10:50 am to
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Mett has never seen the field in an SEC game


:CamNewton:
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 3/29/11 at 11:04 am to
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Not in who he starts, but I think he might be more willing to reward Lee for sticking around by giving him more mop-up duty than Mett


let's hope we are actually in position for some mop-up duty this year...
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 3/29/11 at 11:05 am to
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I think that could very well end up a possibility of the QB situation.


there is no way that 3 QB's will all play meaningful snaps in a competitive game...
Posted by LuzianaFootball
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Posted on 3/29/11 at 11:11 am to
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:CamNewton:


Cam played in spells behind Tebow.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 3/29/11 at 11:25 am to
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Lee and Jefferson have been through some wars with the rest of the LSU team and that means something amongst men.


IMO this is exactly what happen in 08. You had a rsfr and a fr playing qb with guys that had been on the team 4-5 years. Team chemistry was not there especially when the losses started happening.
Posted by rjokerlsu
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Member since Apr 2007
7374 posts
Posted on 3/29/11 at 12:51 pm to
Regarding a three QB situation, let's hope we don't have to relive something like the situation with Nall, Booty and Davey--in 1999 I think--it seems like no one ever stepped forth out of that trio.
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