- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Winter Olympics
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Les Miles vs. Nick Saban
Posted on 4/7/09 at 12:48 pm to NationalChampionLSU
Posted on 4/7/09 at 12:48 pm to NationalChampionLSU
quote:
LSU's records would have been better if we still had Saban here.
LSU would have gone undefeated between 2005-2007 with Saban here. Its an undeniable fact.
3
Posted on 4/7/09 at 12:49 pm to tubucoco
No response to the Iowa coverage huh?
Posted on 4/7/09 at 12:51 pm to ATLTiger
Nothing illegal or against NCAA rules or anything like that, just many "high profile players" threatening to leave the program if Saban stayed.
Team chemistry was about to implode upon itself had Saban stayed. JR and Saban's relationship was strained to say the very least.
Team chemistry was about to implode upon itself had Saban stayed. JR and Saban's relationship was strained to say the very least.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 12:52 pm to NationalChampionLSU
quote:
Les Miles vs. Nick Saban
LM = Undefeated in NC games at LSU
NS = not so much (UAB, Iowa, Texass, etc.)
Coach Miles is our guy, could have left for Meeechegan, but didn't. $abear left for the NFL & more $$$, then lied & quit like a child & went to Bammer for even more $$$.
Class vs. classless--I'll take class every day.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 12:54 pm to LuckyLee
quote:
Dinardo was fricking hated by your fan base until Saban went to Bama. He didn't start shite, that's why he got canned.
No he wasn't. Dinardo got recruiting back on track for LSU.
quote:
but it was his assistant coaches who ruined it all?
He hired his friends to work for him, who were underqualified. But it was his fault for bringing them in.
quote:
He didn't, but Saban was the reason why LSU started winning big, not Dinardo's recruiting.
Dinardos recruiting helped. Toefield, Davey, Reed, James, Faulk, Clark, etc.. all Dinardo's recruits. I'm not crediting Dinardo with LSU's success under Saban (unlike you Bama fools who still credit Saban for everything LSU), but he did bring in some really talented players, just didn't have the coaching
Posted on 4/7/09 at 12:54 pm to NewGuy01
quote:
No response to the Iowa coverage huh?
And where was LaRon Landry in that play?
I think the guy that lost to UAB and ULM, with a two game losing streak, and getting Skull Drugged on TV by Utah, may be the better coach.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 12:55 pm to NewGuy01
quote:it's alraedy a known fact that in the press conference after the game Saban said the inexperienced DB lined up in the wrong coverage, he was supposed to be in a prevent, but I'm not gonna keep arguing with someone that has Saban blinders on.
No response to the Iowa coverage huh?
Posted on 4/7/09 at 12:56 pm to Chimlim
quote:
LSU would have gone undefeated between 2005-2007 with Saban here. Its an undeniable fact.
You are 100% correct. LSU would've had 3 heisman winners, at least 10 people on the 1st team all-american list, but the problem is that nick saban wouldn't be at LSU anymore because he would be president of the united states, but wait, i just remembered that the oval office would have been moved from washington, d.c. to the athletic department at LSU so that Saban, i'm sorry, president saban could still coach while also being president, oh and i completely forgot this - we wouldn't have had a recession and the dow jones would be at 25,000. Man LSU is completely stupid for getting rid of him
Posted on 4/7/09 at 12:57 pm to Chimlim
quote:
No he wasn't.
I lived in NOLA from at the end of the Dinardo years. He was fricking hated.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 12:58 pm to Chimlim
quote:
LSU would have gone undefeated between 2005-2007 with Saban here. Its an undeniable fact.
:rotflmao:
Posted on 4/7/09 at 1:01 pm to tubucoco
quote:
I do not believe Les Miles could have turned our program around as quickly, and in such a dominating fashion, as Saban did. Having said that, I also do not believe Saban would have been more successful than Miles in the time that Miles has been here. Last year, Miles gave his loyal staff members a shot at a promotion, when they failed, he replaced them with what appear to be quality replacements. He was also screwed on offense with the qb situation. Overall, while this could be (and has been) debated at great length I believe given the current state of the program, that Miles is a better fit than Saban. He has proven it with quality of staff, recruiting, character, loyalty, wins,and hardware.
Does is sound like I have no appreciation for Saban as a coach?
Do I sound hateful or bitter?
Posted on 4/7/09 at 1:02 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:
I like Miles because he is LSU's coach, I don't like Saban because he is Bama's coach...
+1
Posted on 4/7/09 at 1:13 pm to Chimlim
quote:
LSU would have gone undefeated between 2005-2007 with Saban here. Its an undeniable fact.
Yes, I've heard. Kills men by the hundreds. And if HE were here, he'd consume the English with fireballs from his eyes, and bolts of lightning from his arse.
He is good for 1-2 turds a year. Saban choked against ULM last year, choked against Florida this year, and choked in the sugar bowl against a fricking mid major in a BCS bowl game.
NEXT.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 1:27 pm to ironsides
And in 2008, The Great and Powerful Saban would have gone 10-2 in what would have been considered a monster rebuilding year. The Ryan Perrilloux saga never would have happened, because one of Saban's many great gifts is an amazing judge of character, which is why he never recruited Perrilloux to begin with.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 1:44 pm to Chimlim
quote:
And in 2008, The Great and Powerful Saban would have gone 10-2 in what would have been considered a monster rebuilding year. The Ryan Perrilloux saga never would have happened, because one of Saban's many great gifts is an amazing judge of character, which is why he never recruited Perrilloux to begin with.
And he would have gotten tim teabow to transfer from florida after his first year because let's face it, you can't win a heisman from florida if THE BEST COACH TO EVER LIVE, is coaching at LSU, so he would've transfered but because saban is saban, teabow wouldn't have had to sit out a year and so LSU's undefeated season would still be in tact and this would be teabow's final year here. So we would have a 55 game-winning streak still going. Suck that one oklahoma!
Posted on 4/7/09 at 1:47 pm to NationalChampionLSU
quote:
I think Saban regretted that he left the LSU team for the NFL, and he wanted to be back in the SEC where competitive teams play. He chose Bama because Bama has the all-time winningest record in the SEC. Think so?
Saban failed at Miami. Bad organization. Bad draft choices. Bad free agent choices. His system did not work at that particular time in the NFL.
Miami provided everything Saban wanted and yet he could not get the job done.
That being said, Sexton started to look around for the next paycheck and Bama had its checkbook out. I am confident Saban choose Bama because of timing. Bama wanted a new coach. Saban wanted a job at a good football school.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 1:55 pm to NationalChampionLSU
quote:
Member since Aug 2004
Seriously?
Posted on 4/7/09 at 1:59 pm to Choctaw
quote:
People like you are the reason everyone thinks we're obsessed with Saban.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 1:59 pm to SmackDaniels
Les Miles wins his bowl games. Had a down year this year. He's coming back up.
Alabama lost to Utah. They got dominated by Utah. A Utah team that barely beat Michigan, who won three games last year.
Alabama lost to Utah. They got dominated by Utah. A Utah team that barely beat Michigan, who won three games last year.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 2:09 pm to tubucoco
quote:Holy smokes.
it's alraedy a known fact that in the press conference after the game Saban said the inexperienced DB lined up in the wrong coverage
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but is that not where an experienced quality coach steps up to CALL A TIME OUT! Hmmmmm?????
Anyway you spin it, having made a COACHING BLUNDER that LOST THE GAME, a coach does not then hold a presser in his final public act at the school to transfer blame for the loss to a kid on his team. Unbelievably bad form. That moment defines nearly everything negative about Nick Saban. It's indicative of a self-centered egotism that would have hurt the 2005 post-Katrina team immeasurably.
Despite the above, I personally think Saban is a great coach. No one's perfect. I happen to also think 2008 was Saban's best year ever as a coach. (Utah was in 2009
) From our stance, LSU could not have done better in terms of choosing a coach to rebuild the program and it's infrastructure. However at this point, to downplay Miles' success relative to Saban's is stupid beyond belief. Saban lost games LSU was favored to win ever single year he was in BR. He redshirted the future #1 NFL draft pick at a point in time where Marcus Randall was our 2nd string QB. In terms of coaching prowess, that was a dumber decision than John Brady redshirting Tyrus Thomas. Again no one's perfect, but if Saban plays JR as 2nd string in 2003, JR would have been much more effective in 2004 and with that experience, we don't lose the 2005 UT game. Miles vs Saban, who knows? But I do know this, Miles is pretty damn good.
Page 5 of 12
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News