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Posted on 4/7/09 at 2:50 pm to tubucoco
tubucco, someone still has to coach that team. That really isn't a good argument. I understand they were good, but if you look at how close some of those games were, and then look at how many of those close games we won, you would see that it was the coaching that gave us wins. It doesn't take a good coach to beat a team by 30, alot of coaches can do that, but when a coach wins games consistently that are decided by 7 points or less, Miles record in those games, last year included, is 14-6, then you are a good coach. Just ask Pete Carroll. The guy can win the easy games, but if the game gets close he just doesn't know how to win them.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 2:50 pm to NC_Tigah
Eveybody be happy. 2 Nat'l Championhips and 3 SEC Championships this decade. A favorable home schedule this coming season and a program where many of the nation's best want to play. Saban and Miles are different, but are both good coaches who have generally done everything right for LSU. People have been too hard on Coach Miles.....a very good coach and great person...to the point of embarrassment in some cases.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 2:56 pm to DenLOWalfan
quote:Ole Miss, Bama, and UGa say otherwise.
A favorable home schedule this coming season
Posted on 4/7/09 at 2:57 pm to DenLOWalfan
that's true guys, but a lot of people take for granted all the wins, it is much easier to win with teams loaded down with talent than teams that are not, y'all know that, Saban started that trend, giv'em credit, one of y'all could have put on the headset and won with that talent, hell in 2005 the talent alone won all those games because Miles was apprehensive back then about being the coach, he was new and knew this wasn't quite his team yet.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 3:01 pm to tubucoco
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2005 the talent alone won all those games
Tell that to the New York Yankees. They always have the best talent in the world, no one would deny that. But they haven't won a world series in i really don't know how long, but it has been a while, proof that talent doesn't always win games, but good coaching will win games. I know that LSU wouldn't be where they are without saban, and for that i am grateful, but to honestly think that one of us could have put on the headset against alabama or florida and beat them is just ridiculous. I don't even think i could beat ULM with LSU's talent if i were the coach. both saban and miles are really talented coaches. Saban might have the edge over miles, but who knows what will happen in the years to come. but to honestly discredit ANY of miles win's shows that you really don't know what you are talking about
Posted on 4/7/09 at 3:03 pm to tubucoco
quote:
I'm done.
True.
quote:Tell that to Pete Carroll.
one of y'all could have put on the headset and won with that talent, hell in 2005 the talent alone won all those games
Posted on 4/7/09 at 3:11 pm to NC_Tigah
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Tell that to Pete Carroll.
don't go there dude, have you seen Pete Carroll lose 5 games in a season? two of them blowouts. y'all keep taking this in the wrong way, already said I respect Miles, but LSU is a program like USC that is loaded down with talent, should always be in the hunt every year, when you think losing 5 games with big talent is acceptable, somethings wrong. oh, and I was done, till I came back and saw that this shite was still going on
so might as well participate even though it won't do any good. Posted on 4/7/09 at 3:12 pm to tubucoco
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hell in 2005 the talent alone won all those games
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You get an F in Louisiana history. 2005 was simply the best coaching job by any coach in LSU history, NC years included. Given the impact of Katrina and Rita in this state and on the team, both physical and mental, the fact that LSU went on a 10 game win streak before finally running out of gas in the SECCG is beyond amazing. For you to imply otherwise is simply idiotic.
hell in 2005 the talent alone won all those games
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You get an F in Louisiana history. 2005 was simply the best coaching job by any coach in LSU history, NC years included. Given the impact of Katrina and Rita in this state and on the team, both physical and mental, the fact that LSU went on a 10 game win streak before finally running out of gas in the SECCG is beyond amazing. For you to imply otherwise is simply idiotic.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 3:13 pm to CalLSU
I agree CalLSU....we would choke on the sidelines. I know football, know how to set up plays, etc....but choked half the time under the pressure of calling plays for 9-10 yr olds a few yrs ago. The year we finished 4-4 still pees me off....my stuborness cost us 2 wins, plus 30 seconds between plays went by too fast. It is MUCH, MUCH harder than folks think.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 3:15 pm to Macavity92
you fools like to throw the word idiotic around a lot, you might wanna look in the mirror, once again, TALENT, asswipe, TALENT, as in LSU being loaded down.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 3:16 pm to tubucoco
Talent only gets you so far. Coaching has to get you the rest of the way. Coaching sets the formations, calls the plays and keeps the team together. Do you even remember what 2005 was like?
Posted on 4/7/09 at 3:17 pm to tubucoco
and i'm out. 
Posted on 4/7/09 at 3:22 pm to Macavity92
quote:ok, so what happened last year?
Coaching has to get you the rest of the way. Coaching sets formations, calls the plays and keeps the team together.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 3:22 pm to Macavity92
You are right on. Miles had players with family members missing in NO, players with 20 displaced family members living with them an BR , a disrupted practice/preparation schedule, a missed tune-up game and the improvement that always follows the first game, then a home game turned into an away game, etc, etc. Miles was brilliant in his leadership that year and idiots were still calling the radio bashing him for the close win in AR and the TN loss. Plus they had to make-up the 1st game, so they played 10 straight and were simply gassed. Look what he has done in bowl games with good time to prepare, and didn't LSU lose 4 or 5 games, including the Iowa bowl, the year before Miles arrived. I will try not to post here again, but Miles is a great person and very good coach and obviously very loyal. His job that first year was an all-time great coaching performance.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 3:25 pm to tubucoco
I'm not typing it again. See my post above. However, I think that Miles did the right thing as a coach and a person by dismissing RP even though he knew that he did not have anyone else ready to step in and that it would probably cost him the season. Sometimes coaching is more than Ws and Ls.
I think you have a hard time running down Miles as a coach if you look at his overall record. It is easy to snap shot things. I could argue that Peyton Manning is a terrible QB if I focus on the game that he threw 4 INTs. But his record as a whole suggests otherwise. It is more intellectually honest to look at the whole picture rather than to pigeon hole things.
I think you have a hard time running down Miles as a coach if you look at his overall record. It is easy to snap shot things. I could argue that Peyton Manning is a terrible QB if I focus on the game that he threw 4 INTs. But his record as a whole suggests otherwise. It is more intellectually honest to look at the whole picture rather than to pigeon hole things.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 4:02 pm to tubucoco
quote:do you own a TV?
ok, so what happened last year?
Posted on 4/7/09 at 4:34 pm to NationalChampionLSU
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Posted on 4/7/09 at 4:40 pm to tubucoco
quote:
ok, so what happened last year?
Same thing that happened to Nick Saban in 2002.
No QB, and a bad defense.
Difference is.. Saban handled the D in 2002,
Miles oversaw a defense he entrusted to someone
with limited experience. And now he is gone, replaced by possibly the best DC, DB and line coaches in the country.
I simply don't get your mentality on this,and neither does the board.
Sure Miles tried to call time out a couple times. Sure he make questionable decisions. No body is perfect.
How about this... had Saban USED his timeouts perhaps we would have won a few more games when he was our coach.
You make fun of Miles when he tries to take a timeout, but look the other way when Saban fails to take one, and loses a game in the process?
I leave you to ponder this decision as well.
Which is a dumber decision... trying a 64 yard FG with a kicker who made the FG in practice THREE TIMES before the game
(Miles, LSU 2008)
Or
Leaving your only experienced QB in the game up by 30 with less than 5 minutes left in the game, and as a result, losing your only experienced QB for the year? (Saban, UF 2002)
Tell me, what would have happened if JPW went down just once last year for bama?
If you don't open your eyes, you're blind.
Oh, and none of us are idiots for taking this position. You simply refuse to see the other side, which honestly makes you look a little, shall we say, stupid.
I don't hate Saban. I don't think any LSU fan that posted on this thread actually hates him. I simply think there's a mountain of evidence that confirms he's overrated.
And I never stated Miles was the greatest coach, either. I simply think he s a better fit for LSU.
And he'll prove it this year. Miles will beat Saban, and you'll have to admit Miles is better.
Again.
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