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re: Let's talk about Nuss...
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:13 pm to jptiger2009
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:13 pm to jptiger2009
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My OP proves that this board reads what they want. I pointed out obvious voids in Nuss's game.
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His completion percentage is shite.
That was your first line in your OP. You were proven wrong by myself & other posters. His 65% completion percentage isn't shite. Sub 55% would be shite.
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I pointed out obvious voids in Nuss's game.
At no point in your OP or this thread have you hit on the flaws in Nussmeier's game. If you knew what you talking about you have brought up needing to get better at pre & post snap reads. His pick against Baylor was a prime example of that. Nuss didn't read defensive front well.
He predetermined his throw causing him to throw right to the DE who dropped off in an underneath zone. Two ways to get better at that is to watch more film & pay closer attention to detail. Also, he needs to do better with a hard count. Doing so would allow him to possibly get defenders to tip their post snap responsibilities.
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I've also pointed out that I hope I'm wrong.
No need to hope because you are already wrong. You don't even know how to identify or what are the flaws in Nussmeier's game to begin with. Another one of his flaws had been his inability to hit on deep throws over the top of the secondary but in his last 2 games it showed that he has worked on that & gotten better at it already. His timing & chemistry with Chris Hilton after coming back from injury grew from game to game as Hilton got more reps both at practice & in games.
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:37 pm to jptiger2009
PUT the crack pipe down.
Nuss going to be great next year, esp if Oline can learn how to control line and have a threat of running ball at all.
Yep, Its official -- I fully on the Nuss Bus to Heisman and Natty next season
Nuss going to be great next year, esp if Oline can learn how to control line and have a threat of running ball at all.
Yep, Its official -- I fully on the Nuss Bus to Heisman and Natty next season
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:43 pm to BigBrod81
He’s been good with the deep ball in every game he’s had a deep threat on the field. UGA 22, the bowl game last season and the couple of games Hilton was healthy this season. We also had a bunch of drops this season and some of those were downfield throws.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:56 pm to Madking
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We also had a bunch of drops this season and some of those were downfield throws.
He also had several instances this season where he overthrew receivers when they had gotten behind the secondary.
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the couple of games Hilton was healthy this season
There was one against Florida where Nuss overthrew Hilton by about 10 yards when Hilton had completely blown by the coverage by a good 5 yards.
The point is he showed improvement especially with his chemistry with Hilton against Oklahoma & Baylor. It's a positive sign that both he & coaches recognized inconsistencies there & worked on addressing it. We have these tards who are stuck on stupid who believe Nuss isn't capable of improving yet this is a sign that he is more than capable of improving.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:57 pm to jptiger2009
2 recommended schools for Nuss this off season:
1. Speed Camp
2. Decision school
1. Speed Camp
2. Decision school
Posted on 1/2/25 at 2:20 pm to BigBrod81
Of course, I didn’t mean he never missed those throws just pointing out that the effectiveness correlated with having deep threats on the field.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 2:32 pm to Madking
Gotcha. Losing Kyle Parker hurt too in terms deep downfield throws. Nuss had that one pretty deep ball to Parker against UCLA before Parker went down.
With the weapons he will have at WR, Nuss is set to have a monster 2025 season. If he can consistently get solid protection from the line from the inside out, he'll be a Heisman contender.
With the weapons he will have at WR, Nuss is set to have a monster 2025 season. If he can consistently get solid protection from the line from the inside out, he'll be a Heisman contender.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 2:35 pm to BigBrod81
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We have these tards who are stuck on stupid who believe Nuss isn't capable of improving yet this is a sign that he is more than capable of improving.
And to an extent, has already shown improvement. One INT in his last 149 pass attempts. Hitting the deep balls to Hilton.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 2:48 pm to Tigerfan1274
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And to an extent, has already shown improvement. One INT in his last 149 pass attempts.
This is a great point!
Posted on 1/2/25 at 4:44 pm to Alt26
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Even with the attrition from 2022 there was no reason to think the 2023 would be THAT bad, and with how good the offense was a defense only moderately better than awful was all that was needed to compete for a championship.
I agree... the defense shouldn't have been that bad. Hell give 2023 this year's defense and we probably make the playoffs.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 4:56 pm to Madking
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He’s been good with the deep ball in every game he’s had a deep threat on the field
Nuss was good for us this year(great for 1st year starter and we would kill for this production outside '19 and '23)but for most of the year, his deep ball was a wasted play.
I can't say all blame on it is laid at his feet... as you said he was without a true dee threat.
I can't understand how anyone thinks he isnt good... he was our entire offense so when he didn't have a good game our offense sucked. I have no doubt he will improve on his deep ball as it already looks that way. The deep balls against baylor were things of beauty.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 5:24 pm to Rickdaddy4188
“he was our entire offense”
You couldn’t be more right brotha. We couldn’t run the ball, we didn’t really commit to running the ball, we had a ton of dropped passes, we had no deep threat 90% of the games and although parts of the Oline were good, Chester is the worst Center I’ve seen at LSU in my 40+ years watching LSU football so you’re getting a lot of pressure right up the middle which any coach and QB will tell you is the worse place for pressure to come from.
You couldn’t be more right brotha. We couldn’t run the ball, we didn’t really commit to running the ball, we had a ton of dropped passes, we had no deep threat 90% of the games and although parts of the Oline were good, Chester is the worst Center I’ve seen at LSU in my 40+ years watching LSU football so you’re getting a lot of pressure right up the middle which any coach and QB will tell you is the worse place for pressure to come from.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 8:58 am to Madking
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We couldn’t run the ball, we didn’t really commit to running the ball, we had a ton of dropped passes, we had no deep threat 90% of the games and although parts of the Oline were good
One could also argue that Nuss not running the ball when he had several opportunities to run the ball (because we already know he physically can run the ball) also limited our options to open up the run game.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:06 am to BigBrod81
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BigBrod81
Do some homework. Read my post history.
I've pointed out every issue I finally got you to point out (thank you) over the last season.
All in all, it's ok to be critical of our QB when he has very obvious inefficiencies. This board was overly critical of JD5 for a long time, and he won the fricking Heisman. Excuse me for being critical of a player who's no where in the same ballpark (yet) as JD5.
A large segment of this board was calling for Nuss to start several games into Daniels's Heisman season. Go read.
And...going into the season before that one, this board wanted Bobby Hebert's son-in-law to start over Daniels.
Nuss needs to feel the heat. He can handle it.
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 9:08 am
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:41 am to jptiger2009
We’ll just have to wait to see if he does the work, and has the decisions making capacity of JB &JD. We’ll see it vs Clemson!! As far as NFL, next year the QB group doesn’t seem much better than this year. He should have the motivation off season to grab this chance to climb the list.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:55 am to BigBrod81
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He also had several instances this season where he overthrew receivers when they had gotten behind the secondary.
There was one against Florida where Nuss overthrew Hilton by about 10 yards when Hilton had completely blown by the coverage by a good 5 yards.
It’s almost as if a guy who hasn’t played football in 8 months isn’t able to walk on the field and instantly be at full strength and football conditioning.
Nuss has hit 4 deep balls to Hilton for 3 TDs and to set up a 4th in the last two games. We also saw him and Hilton connecting in the Bowl Game vs Wisconsin when Hilton was also healthy. If you want to pretend Hilton was at full strength and speed before Vandy, then I don’t know what to tell you. The evidence is right there on tape. A true deep threat makes all the difference.
And if you think Lacy and Daniels were equal replacements as true deep threats, then you really are ignorant. Both were strong WRs in plenty of respects, but neither has that kind of speed playing SEC competition.
I know Nuss hit one to Parker vs UCLA, but he’s not really a burner, either. He’s a great all-around WR who runs crisp routes, but he’s not going to be a primary deep threat next year with the guys we are bringing in.
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 9:59 am
Posted on 1/3/25 at 12:22 pm to jptiger2009
A couple scrambles per game wouldn’t move the needle or fix the running game. Things like jet sweeps and jet sweep action would be a much more substantive wrinkle.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 12:41 pm to Madking
Dude needs to be willing to turn it upfield and run when he sees daylight in front of him (scramble is the old term).
Posted on 1/3/25 at 12:51 pm to CouldCareLess
Yea, when it’s obvious and open he needs to take it
Posted on 1/3/25 at 1:08 pm to Madking
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A couple scrambles per game wouldn’t move the needle or fix the running game. Things like jet sweeps and jet sweep action would be a much more substantive wrinkle.
We ran 1 or 2 jets per game early in the season and also ran several bubble screens and RB flairs to Durham. The problem is that we weren’t particularly good blocking on the outside. Daniels was the only consistently good blocking WR. Even Taylor didn’t always hold a block out there. This HAS to improve next year, and should with the guys we have coming in and Parker coming back.
We also need to run more gap plays with pullers to mix things up. The staff talked about working on that in the offseason and the 247 and On3 guys reported seeing it in Fall Camp, but we never saw a ton of it on the field. Hopefully having a better Center and two more athletic Guards (hopefully) next season will help with this.
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 1:09 pm
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