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Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:18 pm to djrunner
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Guys we are having a good week of recruiting, that’s all I was saying. Sorry that upsets so many people. I thought LSU fans might be happy about that.
It appears I was wrong.
Incorrect.
It's because people were told "Recruiting ranking doesn't matter," after the 15th ranked class finish. So if it does matter, then O failed in 2018, even if these rankings are good. If it doesn't matter, then this 3rd rank class doesn't matter. (Not only that, it's early so we're not sure where we'll finish).
Can't have it both ways. Should we be excited now and skeptical of 2018 results? Or should we not care about 2018 results, and not care about this ranking now?
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:25 pm to Freauxzen
but if they did matter in 2018, then they matter now!!!
is that how it works too?
you realize how fricking dumb this is
is that how it works too?
you realize how fricking dumb this is
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:28 pm to Lester Earl
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you realize how fricking dumb this is
Are you saying that applying the same logic to 2018 and 2019 is dumb?
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:28 pm to djrunner
Orgeron must be cheating his arse off.
Better to go down a winner who broke the rules than a loser.
Better to go down a winner who broke the rules than a loser.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:43 pm to RB10
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You're in a thread pumping up LSU having the #3 class according to the 247 composite and you're throwing a hissy fit every time someone says something negative about it.
Then you turn around and say that the 247 composite is meaningless because it doesn't fit your narrative that "LSU has the #2 kicker in the country".
Sorry I posted the Kohl's kicking camp information that proved you wrong. I guess my hissy fit hit a bone.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:45 pm to Tiger Ree
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Sorry I posted the Kohl's kicking camp information that proved you wrong. I guess my hissy fit hit a bone.
You didn't prove me wrong. Cade York is the 6th rated kicker in the country according to the same ranking system that you are touting within this very thread for having LSU's 2019 ranked 3rd in the country. He's not 2nd, as you claimed.
That is a verifiable fact.
ETA: He's not even ranked 2nd in the Kohl rankings anymore. He's 3rd.
Once again Ree, you spout off a bunch of bullshite without bothering to check your facts.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:22 pm to RB10
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Are you saying that applying the same logic to 2018 and 2019 is dumb?
You realize there are 2 sides to this, and if you are going to standby the same logic then both side comes out looking the same.
Im just a neutral observer on this one. You can't throw what he said in the guys face, because in the end the post that i quoted is in the same boat.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:24 pm to Lester Earl
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You realize there are 2 sides to this, and if you are going to standby the same logic then both side comes out looking the same.
I do. I'm wondering what's dumb about the poster saying the logic needs to be applied evenly?
Either recruiting rankings matter, or they don't. The problem is there are some on the board who want it both ways.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:29 pm to RB10
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I'm wondering what's dumb about the poster saying the logic needs to be applied evenly?
nothing. Just apply it evenly, including in relation to his own thoughts. Which makes him look as much of a fool.
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Either recruiting rankings matter, or they don't. The problem is there are some on the board who want it both ways.
yea, for the most part. Not everything is so black and white. Of course my thoughts on that are an excuse to some people, but make logical sense to others.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:35 pm to Lester Earl
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It's because people were told "Recruiting ranking doesn't matter," after the 15th ranked class finish. So if it does matter, then O failed in 2018, even if these rankings are good. If it doesn't matter, then this 3rd rank class doesn't matter. (Not only that, it's early so we're not sure where we'll finish).
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Just apply it evenly, including in relation to his own thoughts. Which makes him look as much of a fool.
Although I disagree that the 2018 class was a failure, I know that some people view the class as a disappointment compared to previous finishes.
I'm still waiting for you to explain how the post that is quoted above was dumb, and didn't apply the logic evenly. I just don't see it.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:43 pm to RB10
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I'm still waiting for you to explain how the post that is quoted above was dumb, and didn't apply the logic evenly. I just don't see it.
For one, the blanket statement "recruiting rankings do not matter" is just silly. I don't think anyone believes this in the literal context used, which only makes the post more foolish.
it's clearly a one sided attack focused on people who didn't think recruiting rankings mattered in 2018 because we had a mediocre finish.
Things are going good now, and if you aren't acknowledging it, for whatever reason, then your focusing in on the wrong thing.
Im not looking to get into a MoneyMaker argument with you over this.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:45 pm to LSU4Life12
Confused? Do I need to rephrase it for you?
Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:48 pm to Lester Earl
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For one, the blanket statement "recruiting rankings do not matter" is just silly. I don't think anyone believes this in the literal context used, which only makes the post more foolish.
it's clearly a one sided attack focused on people who didn't think recruiting rankings mattered in 2018 because we had a mediocre finish.
You say no one actually believes recruiting rankings don't matter, but follow up that statement with another one acknowledging that there were, in fact, people on this board pushing that exact narrative a few months ago.
It's pretty clear who's looking foolish right now, and it isn't the poster you responded to.
ETA: It appears that what you're trying to say is there were people on this board who questioned the validity of the recruiting services in regards to the 2018 class, and there absolutely were. The problem is those same posters are now taking those services and using them as some sort of "got ya!" with the 2019 class and it's high ranking.
Look no further than Tiger Ree, who has pumped the recruiting class' ranking in this thread and then turned around and disregarded those same recruiting services when he needed to shift the narrative as it pertained to the kicker that LSU has committed. This type of goalpost moving is what is causing the animosity at the moment.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:49 pm to Lester Earl
Lester, I can only tell you that I've used the 2017 Most Talented Teams list put out by 247 to refute the idea that LSU had no talent last year a lot. I've been told everything from the rankings are bullshite, they don't matter, they're inaccurate and my favorite is Ree calls them "experts", but only when he's not using them as a positive to try to prove his point.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:51 pm to TigerLunatik
Luny, im not sure what list your are referring to. Are you talking about the talent on our team last year, or recruiting?
Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:53 pm to Lester Earl
The talent last year.
Eta: But, the responses were about the ranking services in general.
Eta: But, the responses were about the ranking services in general.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:57 pm to TigerLunatik
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But, the responses were about the ranking services in general.
Exactly.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:57 pm to RB10
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You say no one actually believes recruiting rankings don't matter, but follow up that statement with another one acknowledging that there were, in fact, people on this board pushing that exact narrative a few months ago.
I just think that is how you broadly categorize them. I don't think its wrong.... if you can at least realize they do not literally mean they do not matter.
I mean you just refuted his assertion that the class was a failure. Were you happy with the final finish? Probably not. Can you see the good in the class? Yea.
Most people that have acknowledged the good have been labeled as people who think "recruiting rankings do not matter".
I think that narrative was more along the lines of...
- weak year in state
- reach to fill certain holes
- JUCO focus
on the negative side, the finish shouldn't be as much of a focus as say, inability to add CBs in the class. Mismanaging the hard 25 scholarship cap limit.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 8:59 pm to Lester Earl
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Most people that have acknowledged the good have been labeled as people who think "recruiting rankings do not matter".
This is where you're incorrect. Those people were, literally, saying the rankings didn't matter because the services have players that are miss identified every year.
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