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Posted on 6/13/12 at 4:51 pm to
Posted by Joe Joe Joe
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Posted on 6/13/12 at 4:51 pm to
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Do you want to meet in person to discuss our differences?


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If that's the case, how have we ended up with Edward, Slaid, Rhymes, and Katz who have no real position?

Great question. When you've got a team full of slow, dead-pull hitters with no identifiable position, that kind of blows up the argument that Mainieri built a small-ball team focusing on defense and speed.

At the very least, it illustrates how very poor of a job he did recruiting and projecting to fit his mold and style of play.
Posted by vjp819
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 6/13/12 at 4:51 pm to
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If Hanover was a high school senior today,I don't think LSU signs him.He is a prime example of an aluminum bat hitter.


I don't know what to say about that statement.
Posted by Joe Joe Joe
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Member since Oct 2007
5747 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 4:54 pm to
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They are athletic enough to play multiple positions.

Huh? Edward and Slaid are athletic? Didn't see many athletic guys on our team this year.
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He's getting people who can play defense and at many positions.

Who, besides Katz and Jones, can play multiple positions at a high level?
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/13/12 at 4:56 pm to
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If Hanover was a high school senior today,I don't think LSU signs him.He is a prime example of an aluminum bat hitter.


I don't know what to say about that statement.


Same here, Hanover was a middle of the pack hitter even with the new bats. He was T-3rd on the team for doubles this year. Why wouldn't we sign a guy who is about average on the team in hitting and has a defensive position?
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 4:56 pm to
Wasn't talking Edward/Slaid; however, I remember Edward playing some 1B and he actually played CF pretty good in summer league.

Katz and Jones can play almost anywhere. I'm sure Nola could have also, but he was so important at SS that we couldn't afford that. Hanover played 2B until Jones came, and he was pretty good at 3B. Foster was an IF, but played OF.
Posted by LSUBaseballGod82
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/13/12 at 4:57 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/13/12 at 5:07 pm
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 4:58 pm to
Posted by Joe Joe Joe
Givin' Him the Business
Member since Oct 2007
5747 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 5:02 pm to
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Wasn't talking Edward/Slaid

Then what is the point of your argument if you can simply ignore some players that were recruited under the same recruiting philosophy as the one you are espousing?
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I remember Edward playing some 1B and he actually played CF pretty good in summer league.

Yeah, but he didn't play 1B well. What is the point of recruiting kids to play multiple positions if they can't play any position capably?

Also, what summer league? Because nothing about Edward's skills and attributes indicates an ability to play centerfield (the most important position in the outfield) well. Furthermore, as numerous players on our team demonstrated this year, a decent performance in summer league is not indicative of future success.
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Foster was an IF, but played OF.

Please tell me you aren't suggesting that Jared Foster played outfield at a capable level.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34214 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 5:06 pm to
Boy this discussion has went down the shitter in a hurry. Geesh!
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 5:08 pm to
Edwards at CF would be a nightmare...

Guy barely has the range as it is to get to pop-up...
Posted by Bayoufightingtiger
Member since Aug 2011
4608 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 5:08 pm to
We won't have to worry about CF the next several years. Andrew Stevenson will be the best outfielder on the team. He will be the fastest player on the team and plays outfield really good. Could be another Mahtook in the making, both played at same high school.
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 5:18 pm to
This guy is so frickin' overrated as a coach it's pathetic.So he has recruited a team full of kids who can't hit and are uncoachable? What a douche.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12831 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 5:20 pm to
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I agree with PM.This hitting coach excuse is getting old and overrated! You can bet the players are not blaming their poor hitting on the coach. They are examining their own flaws.


Regardless, we weren't an offensive juggernaut although our bats were offensive!

We won with smoke and mirrors. We don't have elite talent and our offense was anemic. If its not Javi's fault then fine but the head coach is ultimately responsible. ( and yes, I know we won the SEC)
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289793 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 5:41 pm to
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Katz going off for 13 was not expected.


Posted by lsugang
BATON ROUGE
Member since Feb 2010
1388 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 5:46 pm to
So is he!!!
Posted by KT70
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
1272 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 7:40 pm to
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I doubt 99% of you whiners advanced past tee ball.


Played in highschool and college but not that you had to play past tee ball to see the LSU hitting approach was bad. It is also either arrogant or assinane for a coach to say hitting coaches are overrated after hitting less than .100 in a super regional.
This post was edited on 6/13/12 at 7:44 pm
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14970 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 9:36 pm to
I have read14 pages of posts and still have not seen anyone answer the question:

What is LSU's offensive philosophy, or "hitting" approach?
Posted by tjohn deaux
GA
Member since Feb 2007
10437 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 9:54 pm to
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question:

What is LSU's offensive philosophy, or "hitting" approach?

Doesn't sound like there is one... must be left up to the hitter, who should already have learned this n high school.
Posted by The Ostrich
Member since May 2009
2716 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:03 pm to
if hitting coaches are over rated and if a kid should already know how to hit then why do MLB players all have a personal hitting coach and a team hitting coach a hitting coach isnt to teach a kid to hit its to help him stay in a groove and keep him swinging like he should be and not unnoticeably change there swing
Posted by tjohn deaux
GA
Member since Feb 2007
10437 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:13 pm to
I agree with you. I was being sarcastic regarding what many have said on here. I believe it is on the hitting coach who is a necessity at the college level.
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