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re: MILES - "Jarrett Lee has the edge on Mettenberger for the #2 spot"
Posted on 4/3/11 at 6:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 4/3/11 at 6:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Reading comp. I have stated this in many threads and never have waivered. People read into a simple statement what they want to.
Legs and experience will give JJ an edge over someone who may be a better passing QB. Miles has alluded to this and JJ will most likely start. It's obvious that Miles likes JJ to run the plays he wants to run, and not Mettenberger or Lee.
Perhaps the gap in Lee/Mett's ability to throw compared to Jefferson is smaller than the gap in Jefferson's "experience/versatility" compared to Lee/Mett.
I just don't think it is as cut and dried as "This guy can run. This guy can throw. The guy that can run gets to start".
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Posted on 4/3/11 at 6:57 pm to DocBugbear
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Yay! We get to argue about quarterbacks for another 5 months before the season ever starts! Then another 4 months during the season!
There will always be QB discussions. Even when JR was here.
Not surprised to see them now, given the play of the last 4 seasons. Are you?
When LSU is winning and the offense is clicking, we will all be on the same page. Until then, its normal.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 7:06 pm to GFunk
You completely contradicted.urself. so les miles makes the decision on who plays on the o line. Well lonergan is younger than tbob, and starts over tbob. Williford and caulk snuffed pt at a younger age than any of the starters other than lonergan. Why did blue receive any carries last year? Why are shep and rueben ahead of tolliver on the depth chart. Why did d- lo start at such a young age? Why has jj been starting over lee?
Any more brain busters?
Any more brain busters?
This post was edited on 4/3/11 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 4/3/11 at 7:08 pm to dgnx6
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Any more brain busters?
Posted on 4/3/11 at 7:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Why the hell have you been arguing??
because you and others seem to be saying the only reason Jefferson will start is because Miles likes more experienced players. I'm saying he will start the players that are the best, it may or may not be the most experienced players. If its JJ its because he is the best option, not just because he is more experienced.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 7:09 pm to MOT
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I just don't think it is as cut and dried as "This guy can run. This guy can throw. The guy that can run gets to start".
Never said it was. JJ's running does give him an advantage over the others because he can run the type of offense Miles wants to run, with a versatile QB. JJ will start IMO. The fact that he can pass, maybe or maybe not as adequately as someone else, run and has 3 years of experience gives him the edge.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 7:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Not surprised to see them now, given the play of the last 4 seasons. Are you?
I don't have a problem with 2007, but 2008-2010... yes. But that's just it, we've been having this same argument for 3 years.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 7:30 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Never said it was. JJ's running does give him an advantage over the others because he can run the type of offense Miles wants to run, with a versatile QB. JJ will start IMO. The fact that he can pass, maybe or maybe not as adequately as someone else, run and has 3 years of experience gives him the edge.
Again, I still don't think it is that simple and that is where our difference of opinion lies. I don't think Miles says "This is the offense I want so I need a running QB. Player A runs better, player B throws better, so I'm going to go with player A". If player B improves over time, or player A underperforms (which is certainly possible) then I believe they would give player B a shot to prove what he can do, and adjust the offense to fit his strengths.
I think it is more of a case of looking at relative strengths and weaknesses to decide who is best. I do agree experience and versatility will play a factor, I just do not agree that they are weighted more heavily than throwing ability or other things, or that the difference in weighting is so extreme.
I think that's about the best I can explain my stance, so I'll just say good discussion and leave it be.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 7:36 pm to MOT
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Then you haven't heard the comments by Miles about how he prefers the options JJ presents him..
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gain, I still don't think it is that simple and that is where our difference of opinion lies. I don't think Miles says "This is the offense I want so I need a running QB.
Then you haven't heard the comments by Miles about how he prefers the options JJ presents him..
Posted on 4/3/11 at 7:43 pm to DocBugbear
It has been 3 years hasn't it?
I for one will be glad when this story comes to a ficking end.
One more year. YA!
I for one will be glad when this story comes to a ficking end.
One more year. YA!
Posted on 4/3/11 at 7:51 pm to DocBugbear
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I don't have a problem with 2007, but 2008-2010... yes. But that's just it, we've been having this same argument for 3 years.
Yet, we have had the same problems. QB folly is an annual thing.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 7:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Then you haven't heard the comments by Miles about how he prefers the options JJ presents him.
I've heard them perfectly. You're just reading more into them than others. Just like above you pointed out that you never said certain things and I assumed incorrectly, you've never heard Miles say he needs a running QB to run the offense he wants to run. He said he likes his versatility, running ability, or whatever...and the rest was added by you.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 8:00 pm to MOT
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I've heard them perfectly. You're just reading more into them than others. Just like above you pointed out that you never said certain things and I assumed incorrectly, you've never heard Miles say he needs a running QB to run the offense he wants to run. He said he likes his versatility, running ability, or whatever...and the rest was added by you.
Dude, you are getting all bent out of shape over nothing. Miles has stated he likes JJ's versatility and experience and how he prefers it. You can bet the rest is opinion. That's what we do here.
Who is starting next year? My guess is 80% or more of the fan base believe it is JJ based solely on the comments Miles has made.
I highly doubt I could get a monetary amount to be pledged to charity from any of you arguing with me here that JJ isn't going to be Miles QB, regardless of how well the other two do in practice. It's all JJ's to lose.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 8:09 pm to msutiger
quote:Translation: Miles is not a good judge of QB talent.
Translation: Lee gets the #2 spot due to seniority
Posted on 4/3/11 at 8:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Who is starting next year? My guess is 80% or more of the fan base believe it is JJ based solely on the comments Miles has made.
no doubt, now, what percentage believe that this is just Miles covering for JJ since he plans on starting him even if he stinks it up in practice? Counting you...
Posted on 4/3/11 at 8:37 pm to ForeLSU
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no doubt, now, what percentage believe that this is just Miles covering for JJ since he plans on starting him even if he stinks it up in practice? Counting you...
I say zero. Doubt anyone has even come close to suggesting such. You folks take things to the extremes and cannot seem to contemplate an objective observation. All accounts were JJ didn't do very well in spring practice last year and it didn't affect his status, but Miles didn't cover anything up.
This post was edited on 4/3/11 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 4/3/11 at 8:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Doubt anyone has even come close to suggesting such.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 8:42 pm to ForeLSU
Miles has never covered for JJ. He just expounds on why, despite the problems he feels JJ is the QB to run his offense.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 9:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Can anyone please remind me why we signed Mettenberger if he's not going to play?
Posted on 4/3/11 at 10:11 pm to LSUfanaddict
Because according to Deangelo Peterson, we needed someone to motivate Jefferson.
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