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re: Miles Should Stay Out of the Offense

Posted on 11/5/12 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 1:53 pm to
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How is this not an error in coaching???


Well, for one, the coaches can't play for the players.

For two, sure, it can be coaching, but it's the coaching of John Chavis, who this board has decided is only successful because "Miles leaves him alone."

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and to give him about a 20 yard cushion on the 3rd one. Whomever made the prevent call screwed the pooch.



I have not had the time (nor the willpower) to re-watch the game yet, but a good friend of mine at the game insists it wasn't a "prevent."

I'm hoping to re-watch this week.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 1:58 pm to
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Those 3-to-5 plays came at key moments and were obviously bad decisions.


They did come at key moments but they weren't the ONLY KEY MOMENTS.

Even still it's still three to five decisions snuggled inside a larger, overwhelmingly successful game plan.

To me, it's a lot like looking at someone like LeBron, who plays marvelously for 46 minutes, racks up 48 points, a dozen boards, 8 assists, but his team is still down by 2. Then, he gets the final shot and misses and everyone says he sucks/choked/isn't clutch.

Ultimately, it's still one shot.

There's a lot of reasons LSU didn't win on Saturday, but I don't think those few calls were the biggest.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 2:03 pm to
FIRE EVERYONE. HIRE PATTERSON. DERP.
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
4404 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 3:09 pm to
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There's a lot of reasons LSU didn't win on Saturday, but I don't think those few calls were the biggest.


I think the failed trick plays, the warecat call, the prevent d at the end of both halves, and the decision not to go for it on 4th at the end were directly responsible for the loss. The reason is because the rest of the game we played pretty exceptionally.

Miles is to blame for the loss. He is also responsible for us even having a shot at winning. It goes both ways. Coach and QB are always gonna shoulder the most blame regardless. They are team leaders.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 3:23 pm to
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Mettenberger just turned in the best QB performance by any LSU QB probably since Russell was on campus.


The difference was that the coaches FINALLY put Mett is a position where he could succeed. They gave him 3 and sometimes 4 wideouts to throw to. He wasn't limited like he has been in the past. It's a point that Hangariff kept harping on week after week on his radio show, and Miles finally did it. It remains to be seen if it continues or if Miles goes back to his old ways and undermines any confidence that Mett gained.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 3:39 pm to
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To me, it's a lot like looking at someone like LeBron, who plays marvelously for 46 minutes, racks up 48 points, a dozen boards, 8 assists, but his team is still down by 2. Then, he gets the final shot and misses and everyone says he sucks/choked/isn't clutch.

Ultimately, it's still one shot.
But of course that's the simplistic view. It's not "the shot" that people have the question about, it's the selection of "which shot at the right time". The game was called very well and those shots arguably were not even necessary to take first of all, and if they were, they were not the right shot selections.

The fake FG should have been called off when Bama read it and stacked the line, and the Warecat should not have been attempted in such a muddled manner and without correctly lining up. Neither one fooled anybody.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35885 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 3:43 pm to
It's time to move on.
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
4404 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 3:46 pm to
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They gave him 3 and sometimes 4 wideouts to throw to.


It was nice to see him scanning the field. This could also be due to more confidence in the oline.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 3:52 pm to
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The difference was that the coaches FINALLY put Mett is a position where he could succeed. They gave him 3 and sometimes 4 wideouts to throw to. He wasn't limited like he has been in the past.


you don't think there were possibly reasons for this? or would you rather not think about it and chalk it up to gross negligence?
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
15805 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 3:52 pm to
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It was nice to see him scanning the field. This could also be due to more confidence in the oline.


The kid has the skills. The coaches just have to trust him and do what they can to help him succeed, not hinder him.

The OL seems to be improving weekly. This is huge for us.

Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 3:53 pm to
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Neither one fooled anybody.


hmmm, never knew that a qb sneak was designed to fool the defense, learn something new every day
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
15805 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 4:05 pm to
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hmmm, never knew that a qb sneak was designed to fool the defense, learn something new every day


It was a stupid call. Just line up and run it down their throat. The execution was botched anyway, so it was doomed from the start.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/5/12 at 4:19 pm to
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It was a stupid call.


I agree...but stating that "it didn't fool the defense" has nothing to do with that
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