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re: Most Overlooked Stat So Far
Posted on 9/21/09 at 6:15 pm to msutiger
Posted on 9/21/09 at 6:15 pm to msutiger
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Im pretty sure Lee can pass for 200 yards in a game.Jefferson has yet to this year.
Jarrett Lee's stats in the games he started and we lost (or almost lost) last season:
23-38, 209 yds., 2tds, 2ints, 21-51 loss to UF
14-28, 287 yds., 3tds, 3ints, 38-52 loss to UGA
20-34, 216 yds., 1td, 1int, 40-31 ugliest win ever by LSU over Troy
13-34, 181 yds., 1td, 4ints, 21-27 OT loss to Bama
Explain to me how throwing for 200 yds. (or almost in Bama case) equals we're a good team or why Jarrett Lee should be starting because he can throw for 200 yards and 10ints. in four games??
Not sure why you watch LSU play, but we'd probably be better off if you didn't and stop giving us the "I told you so" speech...
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Posted on 9/21/09 at 6:15 pm to Antonio Moss
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If Lee doesn't throw any picks in that game, do we lose?
yes
Posted on 9/21/09 at 6:15 pm to Antonio Moss
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If Lee doesn't throw any picks in that game, do we lose?
I think so!! UGA was running all over LSU!!! I will LSU credit. They did score 38!! But if they score 38 AT HOME they should not lose.
Posted on 9/21/09 at 6:16 pm to Antonio Moss
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If Lee doesn't throw any picks in that game, do we lose?
Some idiot once said, "If my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle."
Lee did everything he could to win that game against UGA.
I LOL'd about the line that " we scored alot because the INTs for TDs meant we had the ball alot. BS.
At the end of the day, on October 25th, 2008, the LSU Defense never got off the BUS!! And we lost the game because of it.
Posted on 9/21/09 at 6:17 pm to dukke v
msutiger is still online and still avoiding the question..
Posted on 9/21/09 at 6:17 pm to bmy
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I'll start. The most important stats for a QB [in order] are:
1) TD/INT ratio
2) Completion Percentage
3) # players with reception (spread it around)
4) Yards Per Attempt
5) Total yards
You forgot the most important stat. Who wins the fricking game? That is the only stat that matters.
Posted on 9/21/09 at 6:18 pm to slackster
I think Jefferson is not doing as well as we hoped, but does anyone really think we're opening up the playbook at all?? I mean c'mon people whether you want Jefferson or not, you can't possibly think Lee is the answer...
Posted on 9/21/09 at 6:18 pm to bmy
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This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 7:30 am
Posted on 9/21/09 at 6:18 pm to glassman
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You forgot the most important stat. Who wins the fricking game? That is the only stat that matters.
I left it out intentionally. We're comparing the QB position.. not which team is better. For example: Drew Brees vs Big Ben.. Drew is clearly the better QB but Ben has had more success.
This post was edited on 9/21/09 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 9/21/09 at 6:19 pm to bmy
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msutiger is still online and still avoiding the question..
Just because me status says im online doesnt mean im not away from the computer or on a different board.
Posted on 9/21/09 at 6:21 pm to msutiger
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sorry im not posting every 15 seconds
1) TD's
2) Passing yards not including yards after catch
3) Int's
4) Yards per attempt
5) Rushing yards
6) completion %
Finally
Why on earth is completion% below rushing yards? I'm going to compare the stats asap and see how they rank out.This post was edited on 9/21/09 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 9/21/09 at 6:21 pm to bmy
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left it out intentionally
If we go 12-0 and Jefferson never passes for more than 200 yards, will it matter? Of course not. Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl. Besides wins the only stat that is relevant for a QB is turnovers.
Posted on 9/21/09 at 6:21 pm to glassman
POpeye12 you cannot reason with them.
V Ala. 13-34 181 4ints and by then Lee had allot of experience.
Rob Bob If we win the next three games will you admitt JJ is better then Lee?
V Ala. 13-34 181 4ints and by then Lee had allot of experience.
Rob Bob If we win the next three games will you admitt JJ is better then Lee?
This post was edited on 9/21/09 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 9/21/09 at 6:21 pm to LSUButt
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The defense definitely sucked, but c'mon people, Lee lost that game and lost Bama. Anyone gonna aruge he DIDN'T lose Bama?
No one is going to rally with you. Of course we all remember the pick-sixes, but anyone with an ounce of football knowledge knows that the defense, without question, did LSU in that day.
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Anyone gonna aruge he DIDN'T lose Bama?
Now your going to argue about another game to try and prove your point? Once again, no one will argue because we all know that JL led the tying drive that day, BUT he also was heavily involved, lol, in the play that cost us that game.
If your going to say Lee lost us any single game last year, by himself, it has to be Alabama. But if your going to concede that point, you have to agree that he was sold out by our defense on a day when he gave a valiant effort to beat UGA and ran a very, very prolific offense that day!
Posted on 9/21/09 at 6:22 pm to slackster
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Antonio, we all know he threw two pick sixes against UGA, but if I told you that we were going to have 540 yds of offense and score 38 points at home against UGA, should we have won?
Yes, but Lee spotted Georgia fourteen points. Dude, you just aren't listening. I'm not relieving the defense of their horrid play in that game. But you are actually trying assert that Lee played well in that game. If he doesn't throw any interceptions, we win that game going away.
By the same token, if the defense stops UGA at all, we win that game.
There can be more than one cause to any action.
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This is not an offense, or a QB, who can take this team on its shoulders and win a game for us.
I agree.
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JJ can't do it
But he won't lose it; that's the difference.
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If our defense falters or has even ONE mis-step, we will lose.
I wouldn't go that far.
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We could not overcome our defensive play against UGA last year,
Lee contributed to their falter.
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As the defense goes in 2009, so will the team.
We won a National Championship in 2003 based on this.
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You must be sippin some nice purple kool-aid if you think our offense will go out there and win one by themselves
Never said that.
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You can ride JJ or JL's dick all season if you want, but we do not have an offense for either of them that is capable of doing a damn think without stellar defensive play. Its as simple as that.
Again, this has nothing to do with my point. We know that the offense is not good. In that case, the best we can hope for is that they don't give the game away. Take your opportunities, score when you can, and protect the football. Many teams have won using this formula.
Posted on 9/21/09 at 6:23 pm to bmy
WE ARENT COMPARING LAST SEASONS STATS! PEOPLE CAN IMPROVE OVER THE OFFSEASON, LAST SEASONS STATS DONT MEAN shite.
Posted on 9/21/09 at 6:23 pm to msutiger
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This post was edited on 9/21/09 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 9/21/09 at 6:23 pm to msutiger
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1) TD's
2) Passing yards not including yards after catch
3) Int's
4) Yards per attempt
5) Rushing yards
6) completion %
I've been here for a few years now, and I have to say, TOP 5 best posts I've seen on here.
Literally no one, i mean no one, who knows shite about football would say completion percentage is at the bottom of the list. Also, YAC yardage and passing yardage are the same thing. Tom Brady gets well over 80 yards a game just from Wes Welker in the slot. Yet, he's amazing.
You forget one of the most important things. Composure. No matter what anyone says, it's pretty clear Jefferson has more composure than Lee. Please try to argue that.
Posted on 9/21/09 at 6:23 pm to slackster
Flynn threw 3 ints against Bama the yr before, and LSU still won that game.
Posted on 9/21/09 at 6:23 pm to bmy
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Why on earth is completion% below rushing yards?
because completion % doesnt mean shite when you are passing for 5 yards
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