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Posted on 2/24/19 at 11:59 am to
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 11:59 am to
Have you also notice he doesn't jump very well.
Posted by jimlsu1
Ellicott City, Md
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 12:13 pm to
I get the whole idea if he would be drafted high he should go. But if he thinks he can go to the next level and continue to dribble he is mistaken. He already gets eaten alive when he does it now. In the NBA those guys will make it even worse.
Can his game develop better here or the next level, next year?
Posted by cheeser
downtown Fishville
Member since Feb 2007
2556 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 12:27 pm to
I don't believe the NBA is real big on "growing time" . Do you realize how many spots come open each year in the NBA. There are dozens of players with Reid's size, and most with the skills a big man develops over the years. Reid has years before his inside game would be considered passable in the NBA . He just has no idea how to post up & put himself in a position to receive the ball down low. I think his lack of a low game will force him to return next year.
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4387 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 12:49 pm to
Rickey blanton would get the ball in the low post , catch and put the ball off the backboard all in one quick smooth move , before the defenses had time to respond !
This post was edited on 2/24/19 at 12:50 pm
Posted by NoShow
Member since Feb 2013
2339 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 12:54 pm to
Naz hasn’t been posting up on the block. He’s been getting the ball away from the paint. He needs a couple of years at LSU to get comfortable posting up down low.
Posted by LagdonCG
Member since Jul 2010
998 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 1:30 pm to
Naz is not NBA ready. Would love to see him return next year and get some time with Shaq.

The double team really took him out of his game. His defense was horrible as well.

Hope he can shake off the bad game and play his game next week.


Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
20728 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

yes. Bigby too.

I get nervous when they both try to dribble down low.
The FL game was particularly bad.


They at most should take one dribble and shoot.

And our guards need to stop passing the ball to them at their feet.

Big guys will frick up a pass to their feet every time.

A big guy should never bring the ball down to the court.

Yes there are exceptions.
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
15843 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 12:29 pm to
Shaq was double teamed his whole career
Posted by basiletiger
lafayette, la.
Member since Aug 2007
2482 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 1:58 pm to
DID YOU JUST TRY TO COMPARE THE MOST DOMINANT CENTER OF ALL TIME TO NAZ..........................please sit down.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34917 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 2:22 pm to
He's not a guy who has grown up playing as a traditional back to the basket post player (ala Ewing, Duncan, Robinson, and countless others up until the 2000's) and those guys are kind of becoming dinosaurs in today's game. If you're a PF in today's game your every bit as much expected to be able to step out and knock down 3's as you are scoring inside. It's not common anymore for a team to just come down and "feed the post"

If he looks uncomfortable "posting up" it's because he IS uncomfortable posting up. If/when he gets to the NBA he will be playing a more free flowing game. He's not going to be expected to anchor himself on the block and play like Shaq. But right now he's trying to learn on the fly how to play a game he's not used to playing.

Probably his best use would be a pick and pop game with Waters. But that takes time to develop and also includes the PF being able to knock down some midrange jumpers. For better or worse, Wade doesn't like mid-range two's because the analytics tell you it's a "bad" shot (you either want to go to the goal for a higher % 2, or step back a little for a chance at a more valuable shot)

I think Reid deserves IMMENSE credit for his unselfishness. He's LSU's best pro prospect, yet he's been willing to do what the coaches feel is best for team. Early on he was allowed to do what he felt most comfortable doing, hanging around the perimeter and taking 3's. The downside was that he wasn't much of a factor on the glass. LSU was getting killed on the glass early on and in the paint. So Reid was asked to go inside and play primarily in the paint. The result is that LSU has become one of the very best offensive rebounding teams in the country and that is a HUGE reason for their success.

Reid, could have bitched that playing more inside was going to hurt his draft stock (and it probably has). But he didn't. He's a 5 star player who sacrificed some of his best interest for the betterment of his team. Hell, he had a horrible game on a national stage vs. Tenn. Yet, he was every bit as excited with the win as the rest of his teammates.

He's going to get better as he moves along. But Reid's selfLESSness is an underappreciated reason why this group has had the season they have had.
Posted by Britgirl
Ascension
Member since Jan 2013
1179 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

d our guards need to stop passing the ball to them at their feet.

Big guys will frick up a pass to their feet every time.



Absolutely correct.

Our guards pass to him (and KBW) while they’re on the run, also. Big men find it difficult to catch when they’re on the move. I don’t mean when they’re almost at the basket, and it’s a catch and lay-up/dunk/alleyoop from a long high pass, I mean en route down the court.

They seem to treat them like they would another guard or 3 man, sometimes.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 2:59 pm to
Brit, you going to the SECT?
Posted by basiletiger
lafayette, la.
Member since Aug 2007
2482 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 3:15 pm to
Thank you!
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
6508 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 3:21 pm to
Alt26,
Good analysis and I see where you are coming from. I don't know if Naz is being immensely unselfish by playing some post. Maybe he is. But following a coaches game plan for the team is what they are supposed to do. I understand if he feels it may hurt his stock, if he actually feels that way. I think it is an opportunity for his stock to go up playing down low, getting rebounds.

But I don't think a PF posting up is a thing of the past. Sure it isn't what it used to be but it is a huge weapon.

I see the point about the analytics on mid range jumpers. I hate that though. Scoffield almost did us in with us mid range jumpers.

Naz isn't a big guy that can drive and handle the ball but I could see him being a Dirk except quicker. I think his stock will go way up if he can be good at the post or at the mid range jumpers.

Thanks for the analysis, good post.
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