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re: NUMBER 8!! maybe ESPN doesnt hate us too bad
Posted on 3/5/09 at 2:18 pm to xiv
Posted on 3/5/09 at 2:18 pm to xiv
quote:You could be right. Saban could, for the first time in his career, follow up a 10+ win season with less than 3 losses. And he might do it with a brand new QB with zero starts under his belt, and 3 new OL to protect him, and a new RB to carry the ball. He might do all of that.
Alabama will lose two games next season, too. No more, no less.
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 2:21 pm to jmath27
I thought ESPN hated LSU ?
Posted on 3/5/09 at 2:57 pm to King Joey
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And he might do it with a brand new QB with zero starts under his belt
I love the fact that this is brought up all the time on here. LSU's new QB sucked it up last year, so of course Alabama's will also. Has it occured to anyone that not all QB's are the same and some make better decisions when throwing the ball ? That's cool because we love LSU fan's predictions on Alabama's saeson this fall. Worked out pretty well for us last year
Posted on 3/5/09 at 3:19 pm to King Joey
quote:Fair enough, but Alabama's record last year was no fluke. I said they'd go 10-2 in the regular season, and I was laugh-raped because of it, and it turned out that Alabama did two games better than even I expected in the regular season.
Yes. If you'd said George Mason was going to the Final Four back at the start of the '05-'06 season, that would have been ridiculous. If you'd have said with :02 seconds on the clock in the '02 Kentucky game that we were going to win, that would have been ridiculous, too. That's why we have terms like "fluke", "luck", "upset" and "miracle" in sports. Because ridiculous things happen.
quote:What if I'd said in February 2004 that John Brady would coach LSU to a Final Four?
If you'd said George Mason was going to the Final Four back at the start of the '05-'06 season, that would have been ridiculous.
Posted on 3/5/09 at 3:20 pm to Tiger Authority
Ole Miss at #11 is a bit much. LSU will crush them this year.
Posted on 3/5/09 at 3:31 pm to Blast and Laugh
quote:I'll believe it when I see it. Ole Miss will be capable of beating anyone on any given day just like they were last year.
Ole Miss at #11 is a bit much. LSU will crush them this year.
Posted on 3/5/09 at 3:51 pm to jmath27
#8 sounds right to me!
Posted on 3/5/09 at 3:53 pm to xiv
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I'll believe it when I see it. Ole Miss will be capable of beating anyone on any given day just like they were last year.
WE always crush Ole Miss at home I mean we beat them 23-20 in OT in BR in 2006 and smashed them 45-20 in Oxford to following year. Were gonna smash them even worse this year cause revenge is a bitch on top of all the talent and good coaching we got.
Posted on 3/5/09 at 4:07 pm to Steven4bama
Alabama's QB future.............
Greg McElroy, I was not impressed with this guy. He is slow, underthrows recievers, never looks off the 1st reciever and benifits from his recievers making plays after the catch which actually is what Bama needs from him so that might not be to bad of a deal. Besides we are talking about a guy who has only thrown 5 total passes against SEC teams for his career, 4-5 for 62 yards 1 TD and 1 INT. I did like the way he stands in the pocket though. But he holds the ball way to long. He does looks big in the pocket. We will see.
As for Star Jackson I wasn't to impressed with him at all. He is slow, after watching his video I'm not buying his 40 time until I see him on the college field. He lofts the ball way to high forcing his recievers to slow down and wait for the ball, basically a rainbow, his throw is far from a spiral, he throws into double coverage almost every throw and in college that won't get it done and he doesn't look off the 1st reciever much. I will admit if he had some recievers who could catch a little better in high school his numbers would have been a bit better but not that much. Watch his video, its speaks for itself.
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Without their two stud offensive linemen Bama was a sitting duck for a small Utah d line. Their backups not only were slow and not SEC caliber, they were outright manhandled by a Utah team that wasn't that high in the rankings when it came to sacks. I believe they avg like 2.2 sacks a game, but got 8 against Bama. What? I can understand fans being optimistic about the future of their team, but some of these Bama fans are simply dillusional.
Greg McElroy, I was not impressed with this guy. He is slow, underthrows recievers, never looks off the 1st reciever and benifits from his recievers making plays after the catch which actually is what Bama needs from him so that might not be to bad of a deal. Besides we are talking about a guy who has only thrown 5 total passes against SEC teams for his career, 4-5 for 62 yards 1 TD and 1 INT. I did like the way he stands in the pocket though. But he holds the ball way to long. He does looks big in the pocket. We will see.
As for Star Jackson I wasn't to impressed with him at all. He is slow, after watching his video I'm not buying his 40 time until I see him on the college field. He lofts the ball way to high forcing his recievers to slow down and wait for the ball, basically a rainbow, his throw is far from a spiral, he throws into double coverage almost every throw and in college that won't get it done and he doesn't look off the 1st reciever much. I will admit if he had some recievers who could catch a little better in high school his numbers would have been a bit better but not that much. Watch his video, its speaks for itself.
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Without their two stud offensive linemen Bama was a sitting duck for a small Utah d line. Their backups not only were slow and not SEC caliber, they were outright manhandled by a Utah team that wasn't that high in the rankings when it came to sacks. I believe they avg like 2.2 sacks a game, but got 8 against Bama. What? I can understand fans being optimistic about the future of their team, but some of these Bama fans are simply dillusional.
Posted on 3/5/09 at 7:07 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
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We actually return more starters than LSU, FWIW. We return 7 starters on D, and 4 on O. I believe LSU only returns 10 (that could be wrong, though, and if so, correct me). Also, Pryor led the conference in passing efficiency last year. I heard he had a partially separated shoulder against UT, which affected his throwing motion.
That's true. All many people know about Pryor is what they saw in the Fiesta Bowl, but that game was by far his worst as a passer. I'm not saying he's a really good passer, but he's not nearly as bad as he was in that game. I've even read some comments from people who think he's afraid of contact because of what they saw in that game. But that evaluation is inconsistent with his regular season performance.
This post was edited on 3/5/09 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 3/5/09 at 7:26 pm to Steven4bama
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I love the fact that this is brought up all the time on here. LSU's new QB sucked it up last year, so of course Alabama's will also. Has it occured to anyone that not all QB's are the same and some make better decisions when throwing the ball ?
Has it occured to you that since LSU went 8-5 last year, that you're automatically going to lose 5 games.
Posted on 3/5/09 at 8:25 pm to Steven4bama
No one knows whats going to happen, I jumped on the Bama wagon at the end of the year, They played well against FLA, then played horrible against Utah.. Which was one of the biggest stages bama has been on in years...
Most SEC games can turn on one play,one call...I would rather be lucky than good..
Most SEC games can turn on one play,one call...I would rather be lucky than good..
Posted on 3/5/09 at 10:36 pm to jmath27
5. Virginia Tech Hokies
If this holds, Bammer could be in real trouble in ATL next year. Beamerball>>>>>>Bowdenball.
If this holds, Bammer could be in real trouble in ATL next year. Beamerball>>>>>>Bowdenball.
Posted on 3/5/09 at 11:07 pm to TexTgrTed
Its pretty obvious why ESPN has Bama and VT both ranked in the top 5....These two teams will meet up in the College Kickoff on ESPN and its a hell of a lot easier to promote a battle between top 5 teams to start the season.....Smart on ESPN's part...all about the money.
Posted on 3/5/09 at 11:30 pm to defreak
8 isnt to bad. Id have us a little higher.
Posted on 3/6/09 at 8:52 am to Tiger4
Hey I love LSU as much as the next guy and I'm very excited about next year. BUT, how, after reading his description of us, can he rank us #8. There is almost nothing positive except that we may have found the QB of the future in Jefferson and we had a good recruiting class. I don't think we belong that high until we prove we are that good. And all you guys have worried about for 3 pages is Bama and Va tech being too high. Love is blind I guess. Go ahead. let me have it.
Posted on 3/6/09 at 9:21 am to papt99
quote:There's no doubt that's true. But love and bias don't always make you see things incorrectly, it just tends to make you see things positively. And seeing things positively is only incorrect if the reality is negative.
Love is blind I guess
The real question (imo) regarding LSU's fortunes in '09 is whether you believe our '08 defense reflected crappy talent, crappy coaching, or both. If it was crappy talent or crappy talent and crappy coaching, then we are likely in for another subpar (by our standards) season. A talent dropoff of that magnitude is not usually corrected in a single season.
I am of the other opinion. Our defensive talent level has been roughly similar for the last 6 or 7 years, and yet our defense last year was significantly worse than any of the previous ones. And the most significant and obvious difference was the defensive coaching. That suggests to me that the coaching was most responsible for the dropoff in performance. That being the case, we would only be likely to repeat such a performance if we have indeed hired another crappy set of defensive coaches. That does not appear to be the case.
All of the defensive coaches we have hired this year (Chavis, Haley and Cooper) have significant experience at their current positions in the SEC (and the NFL, in Haley's case). That was not true of either of our DC's last year, so they were in some respects a gamble. Obviously Les Miles had some reason to think they would be successful ones, but it seems likely that did not turn out to be the case. They are gone, and the replacements are much more "known" quantities. In my opinion, this greatly reduces the chances of getting coaching as bad (and therefore, a defense as bad) as last year's.
That's why I am so confident about this team. With a solid defense, I believe our '08 team would have been 10-2 or better in the regular season. We still have the talent on defense, and our QB situation will (if nothing else) be less inexperienced than last year. That's why I think we are a solid top 10 team this year, and why I predict 11-1 or 12-0 for the regular season. Well, that and the fact that I'm an optimist who prefers to spend the spring/summer dreaming of a great season rather than spending it coming up with reasons to dread another disappointing one.
Posted on 3/6/09 at 10:24 am to King Joey
I get where you're coming from. My point was just that he gives everyone above us things like : returning the entire defense, or returning heiman finalist at QB, and other really positive things. We really have no such things to bragg about except Lafell returning. I just hope we live up to the respect he's giving us. either way, I will be at every home game in my seat and yell like hell.
Posted on 3/6/09 at 10:35 am to rutiger
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8 is a good place for us to start, but bama being #4 is really fricking stupid.
True, but think of it this way---it's one spot above us that is sure to open up as the season progresses.
Posted on 3/6/09 at 10:45 am to King Joey
How is Alabama in the top 5 with a revised offensive line, and no proven QB?
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