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Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:06 pm to Fonzarelli
And Moo state. I see u put two 7-5 teams Texas and the Aggies. Might as well put moo state in there since they all got the same record.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:09 pm to nola000
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nola000
God, there's just so much bullshite in your post, it's hard to address it all.
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this BS narrative.
It's not a fricking "narrative", it's simply a FACT.
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That week 2 Texas team would beat the living shite out of this current version.
Now THAT is a narrative, just your unfounded opinion.
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YOU HAVE to use the rankings as they were when the teams played.
No, actually no one has to do that. I'm not sure why you think it's an imperative, since your following rationalization just looks like a bunch of BS excuses.
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I dont agree with ranking teams that early in the season. I think they should wait until about halfway through.
Dude, the rankings don't come out until NOVEMBER, that's 2/3 of the way through the season, well past 'halfway'.
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You cant have it both ways.
Both of which ways? You don't even make any sense, you're just babbling at this point.
Is all your bullshite really just making excuses up for how Texas isn't as good as you thought they were?
Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:34 am to Fonzarelli
That’s a really good point, Fonzarelli.
I don’t know where this LSU team ranks as far as all-time greatest CFB teams, but I believe (if LSU does go on to win the Natty) this LSU team has played the toughest schedule amongst NC teams.
I don’t know where this LSU team ranks as far as all-time greatest CFB teams, but I believe (if LSU does go on to win the Natty) this LSU team has played the toughest schedule amongst NC teams.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:00 am to RedPop4
OSU does not have a top 4 win. That should be an offset to beating Cincy.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:03 am to RedPop4
quote:The computers are kinder to the B1G than the committee is.
But then the committee will drop whatever teams it needs to drop in the rankings to ensure that OSU has a "better resumé."
Basically every main stream LSU opinion this week is refuted by arithmetic.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:04 am to SOL
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OSU does not have a top 4 win. That should be an offset to beating Cincy.
Ohio State will have 3 Top 10 wins, LSU will have 2.
That would trump the top 4 win.
Also, an interesting tweet I just saw:
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Games vs CFP top 25
Ohio State
4-0 W-L
+113 scoring margin
+846 yard margin
LSU
3-0 W-L
+22 scoring margin
+293 yard margin
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:10 am to RedPop4
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But then the committee will drop whatever teams it needs to drop in the rankings to ensure that OSU has a "better resumé."
Exactly. They will drop or move up teams as they see fit, in order to achieve their desired outcome. They will keep Wisconsin in the top 10 even if they get blown out for the 2nd time by Ohio State. They'll keep Cincinnati in the top 25 in order to count them as a quality win for OSU. In the meantime, they will drop UGA (if we win) possibly out of the top 10, and restructure the rankings so that any SEC teams can't move up into the top 10, which would help LSU's resume.
The bottom line is that the committee is a fraud and will do whatever they want. There's not much we can do other than call them out publicly.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:12 am to LouisianaLonghorn
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Exactly. They will drop or move up teams as they see fit, in order to achieve their desired outcome. They will keep Wisconsin in the top 10 even if they get blown out for the 2nd time by Ohio State. They'll keep Cincinnati in the top 25 in order to count them as a quality win for OSU. In the meantime, they will drop UGA (if we win) possibly out of the top 10, and restructure the rankings so that any SEC teams can't move up into the top 10, which would help LSU's resume.
I clearly showed you yesterday that there is historical precedent for this(dropping UGA) not to happen.
But carry on with your talking points.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:14 am to KosmoCramer
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Ohio State will have 3 Top 10 wins, LSU will have 2.
I'm interested to see what the committee does with Baylor if they lose. Will they have another big drop and get moved behind Auburn and Bama? Will Wisconsin fall behind one or both of those as well as Florida? Could the committee then use another arbitrary number like the "top 19" comment?
Lots of interesting scenarios that could spark serious debate. As we were discussing before, the explanations are screwing their credibility.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:16 am to TigerLunatik
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I'm interested to see what the committee does with Baylor if they lose
Okie Lite not dropping out of the top 25, not even dropping a spot, tells me that Baylor will not take a big tumble. A lot of talk is about how the committee is setting up Ohio State, but it also appears they are setting up OU to jump Utah as well.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:19 am to El Campo Tiger
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Next week, when Memphis beats Cincy and LSU beats UGA, and Ohio State beats Wisconsin for the second time, you’ll be looking at each team having four wins against top 25 opponents, with LSU’s four being better than Ohio State’s four. If this truly is a 1A vs 1B situation as the committee says it is, with the margin of resume being so slim, the committee should place LSU #1 this Sunday.
By ranking Bama at #12, the committee has set it up where LSU can't have "better" wins according to the rankings. PSU, Auburn and Bama aren't playing this week. Thus, their order of ranking won't change. And with 9-3 Auburn at 11, even with a loss, they aren't going rank 10-3 Wisconsin behind AU. So what you are going to have is PSU and Wisconsin STILL ranked ahead of Auburn and Bama. That allows them to say OSU has 3 top 10 wins (Wisc. 2x) to LSU's 2 (UF and UGA)
Baring something completely unexpected, anticipate LSU remaining at #2
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:19 am to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
That's a good point as well. I personally would like to see Utah in the playoff if they can get a big win tomorrow. But, the bigger names always seem to get the benefit of the doubt.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:21 am to TigerLunatik
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I personally would like to see Utah in the playoff if they can get a big win tomorrow
Me too, but I'm thinking it doesn't happen. Utah is probably the better team, but OU will have the resume. They also have the name on their jersey over Utah too. I've lost all hope in the committee.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:22 am to nola000
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YOU HAVE to use the rankings as they were when the teams played. shite happens throughout the season. Teams deal with injuries, players getting better or worse, their seasons being ruined and they stop playing like they give a damn, adjustments in game planning or scheme, etc. And, yes. I dont agree with ranking teams that early in the season. I think they should wait until about halfway through. But if youre going to rank teams that early, then use the fricking rankings. You cant have your cake and eat it too. You cant have it both ways. Teams are dynamic, Not static. Its obvious that teams can get better through out the season. Thats why teams can climb so far in the rankings. People forget, they can also get worse.
Well said, exactly right
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:27 am to TchPowDog
Have you looked at Cincinnati’s schedule? They’ve squeaked by in several games this year. I’m not arguing that Texas is better because they have A LOT of issues, but Cincinnati is grossly overrated.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:28 am to KosmoCramer
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I clearly showed you yesterday that there is historical precedent for this(dropping UGA) not to happen. But carry on with your talking points.
Did I respond to your post dude?
No, so butt the frick out.
Thanks!
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:30 am to Fonzarelli
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Texas Florida Auburn Alabama A&M Georgia Clemson Ohio State No team has ever had a season where they beat a similar listing of teams like this before. If they had, I'd like to see it.
This.
In fact, LSU has a shot to beat every team currently in the top 4 playoff slot
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:30 am to Supermoto Tiger
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I totally agree about using rankings when the teams played. I think incorporating both may be better. Most importantly, get rid of the fricking eyeball OPINION and replace that with a computer ranking like the BCS used.
If we got rid of the committee and replaced it with computers OSU would be #1 by a lot: LINK
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:32 am to El Campo Tiger
Look, the reality is that LSU is #1 in the AP and the Coaches' Polls by a large margin. They factor in the eye test, too. LSU is also #1 in the BCS if it were being run today, which we all know aggregates a whole bunch of shite. The only ranking in which LSU isn't number 1 is the CFP ranking, which, unfortunately, is the only one that matters.
And because the body of evidence suggests LSU should be #1 and because the CFP is the only poll that doesn't have LSU #1 and because that poll is entirely dominated by humans, not any sort of aggregation formula or otherwise, it seems fishy as frick. Because it is.
And because the body of evidence suggests LSU should be #1 and because the CFP is the only poll that doesn't have LSU #1 and because that poll is entirely dominated by humans, not any sort of aggregation formula or otherwise, it seems fishy as frick. Because it is.
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