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Posted on 5/4/09 at 7:00 pm to
Posted by msutiger
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Posted by TheGodfather
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Posted on 5/4/09 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

Leon's "quickness" is overrated since he sometimes takes a second to judge where the ball is going


im pretty sure my memory serves me correctly on this one, but if im wrong someone let me know. last year in the elmination game i believe against unc there was a bases loaded situation where leon had a horrible read on the ball and allowed it to get to the wall and score all 3 runs. pretty sure we lost that game by 2 or 3. i believe the speed aspect of mahtook and landry are the same, but mahtook is much more of an instinctive player. i saw someone say that have yet to see mahtook sacrifice his body to make a play. maybe thats bc mahtook puts himself in situations where he doesnt have to dive or slide bc he is already there to make the catch. there was a do or die play in yesterdays game but he slipped on his 3rd or 4th step and it would have been pointless for him to lay out. i dont see how we are any worse with nola at short, than with landry in center. we are 8-1 since the lineup change. hard hit balls dont show up in the line score, and nola has had a few. all you get with leon is k's and popups. if he would make the slighest adjustment and start hitting the ball on the ground it would make a world of difference. i like the changes that were made and feel confident with where the team is going.
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 5/4/09 at 7:11 pm to
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leon is k's

you obviously missed the stat where, it proves nola and leon are striking out at the same rate
Posted by msutiger
Houston
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Posted on 5/4/09 at 7:13 pm to
he is not ready, when you are hitting below 240, you need to be on the bench


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This post was edited on 5/4/09 at 7:14 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/4/09 at 7:16 pm to
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you obviously missed the stat where, it proves nola and leon are striking out at the same rate



except 1 is a SS, and one is an OF

. We are better with Mahtook in the OF because he has shown to be a better offensive player than Landry, and just as good, if not better on defense.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 5/4/09 at 7:23 pm to
Looking at some of the recent box scores it looks like Nola is getting hits in innings where everyone else is hitting, so he is keeping rallies going and holding momentum. I've seen a lot of his outs as either the first out of the inning or the last out of a 1-2-3 inning. It always seemed like Landry was killing rallies with a big K if he got up with guys on base before he got pulled.
Posted by TheGodfather
baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 5/4/09 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

you obviously missed the stat where, it proves nola and leon are striking out at the same rate


i guess what i also missed is where i said nola was a superior hitter. there are 2 postions on the baseball field where you can sacrifice defense for offense imo, and that is catcher and shortstop. gibbs hasnt exactly set the world on fire with the bat this year. with the starting pitching me have, and the seven other hitters in that lineup i am ok with having some defensive studs in there. if we cant manufacture enough runs with those 7 guys, sprinkle in what you can get out of gibbs and nola, with louis or ranaudo on the hill then we dont deserve to win.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
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Posted on 5/4/09 at 7:25 pm to
i personally think landry is a better CF

the only person taken out of the lineup would be Nola. Hell you could even put landry in right mitchell left mahtook in center

if it was me:
LF Mitchell
RF Mahtook
CF Landry
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 8:00 pm to
quote:

i personally think landry is a better CF

the only person taken out of the lineup would be Nola. Hell you could even put landry in right mitchell left mahtook in center

if it was me:
LF Mitchell
RF Mahtook
CF Landry


its debatable whether or not landry is a better CF, but its not debatable that we are better in the infield with Nola.

Mitchell, Mahtook, and Schimpf is a good defensive outfield that can hit. Outfielders need to hit the ball well, at SS its just a luxury
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 5/4/09 at 8:10 pm to
i just dont understand, sacraficing offensive so that in 1 out of every 3 games one ball is caught that wouldnt have been. Nola has been up in many spots wiht RISP and e has failed. He's young and will be great, but he's just not ready
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 5/4/09 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

just dont understand, sacraficing offensive


we really aren't sacrificing offense because Landry has been a terrible hitter as well this year. I would like to see their SEC stats side by side
Posted by LST
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/4/09 at 8:20 pm to
quote:

Nola has been up in many spots wiht RISP and e has failed.


Leon is the king of failing with RISP.
Posted by AreJay
Member since Aug 2005
4186 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

I would like to see their SEC stats side by side


SEC ONLY

Austin Nola. 9 games, 6 GS
.136 AVG, .182 OBP, .208 SLG
3 for 22, 1 2B, 1 BB, 7 K, 3 R, 0 RBI, 1 for 2 SBs

Leon Landry. 20 games, 17 GS
.231 AVG, .261 OBP, .358 SLG
15 for 65 AB, 4 2B, 1 HR, 3 BB, 21 K, 10 R, 12 RBI, 1 for 3 SBs


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Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71646 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 8:39 pm to
exactly, sacraficing offense, 0 fricking RBI's

he will be great but he's just not ready
Posted by AreJay
Member since Aug 2005
4186 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 8:41 pm to
For ref, here are all our hitters, SEC ONLY:

Austin Nola. 9 G, 6 GS
.136 AVG, .182 OBP, .208 SLG
3 for 22, 1 2B, 0 3B, 0 HR
7:1 K:BB, 1 for 2 SB, 3 R, 0 RBI

Leon Landry. 20 G, 17 GS
.231 AVG, .261 OBP, .358 SLG
15 for 65, 4 2B, 0 3B, 1 HR
21:3 K:BB, 1 for 3 SB, 10 R, 12 RBI

Blake Dean. 24 G, 24 GS
.337 AVG, .415 OBP, .539 SLG
30 for 89, 6 2B, 0 3B, 4 HR
12:13 K:BB, 1 for 1 SB, 15 R, 26 RBI

Tyler Hanover. 24 G, 24 GS
.337 AVG, .368 OBP, .465 SLG
29 FOR 86, 2 2B, 0 3B, 3 HR
16:5 K:BB, 4 for 4 SB, 19 R, 20 RBI

Jared Mitchell. 24 G, 24 GS
.310 AVG, .434 OBP, .540 SLG
27 for 87, 4 2B, 2 3B, 4 HR
32:18 K:BB, 12 for 16 SB, 24 R, 18 RBI

Ryan Schimpf. 24 G, 24 GS
.306 AVG, .413 SLG, .624 OBP
26 for 85, 4 2B, 1 3B, 7 HR
17:13 K:BB, 5 for 5 SB, 25 R, 21 RBI

DJ LeMahieu. 24 G, 24 GS
.305 AVG, .365 OBP, .358 SLG
29 for 95, 5 2B, 0 3B, 0 HR
15:8 K:BB, 3 for 4 SB, 10 R, 7 RBI

Sean Ochinko. 21 G, 24 GS
.300 AVG, .344 OBP, .388 SLG
24 for 80, 4 2B, 0 3B, 1 HR
13:6 K:BB, 1 for 2 SB, 12 R, 12 RBI

Micah Gibbs. 24 G, 24 GS
.230 AVG, .375 OBP, .473 SLG
17 fo 74, 4 2B, 1 3B, 4 HR
17:16 K:BB, 1 for 2 SB, 17 R, 12 RBI

Mike Mahtook. 19 G, 17 GS
.333 AVG, .394 OBP, .540 SLG
21 for 63, 3 2B, 2 3B, 2 HR
15:5 K:BB, 7 for 7 SB, 15 R, 10 RBI
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 8:46 pm to
yea, i'm going to go ahead and take back what i said earlier. Although he still plays SS, which is a position that can sacrifice offensive production for (unlike CF)
Posted by TheGodfather
baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
626 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 8:49 pm to
quote:

when you are hitting below 240, you need to be on the bench


quote:

leon landry .231
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71646 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 9:09 pm to
quote:

TheGodfather

overall hes hitting almost .260
Posted by Beaux
Down On The Bayou
Member since Sep 2005
4585 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 10:04 pm to
and NOLA below 200, 0 RBIs
but the boy plays great defense
This post was edited on 5/4/09 at 10:05 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 5/4/09 at 10:15 pm to
we've won games because of that defense and Nola plays Shortstop, not the outfield. Landry regressed, Nola can only go up from here on out.
This post was edited on 5/4/09 at 10:16 pm
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