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re: Question for the average/ignorant "LSU" fan...
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:49 pm to SwatMitchell
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:49 pm to SwatMitchell
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Why did we get in over 11-2 Oklahoma - Big 12 champion that had just beaten #1 Missouri in Big 12 Championship game?
We were already ahead of them
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Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:50 pm to SwatMitchell
just sayin the SEC is not all of a sudden becoming known as a second rate conference w/ a bama loss. Bama being extremely good over the next few years makes it more difficult for LSU to win ball games. that's the bottom line for me.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:51 pm to Chazz Reinhold
I said the same before 06 when OSU played UF. SEC winning only hurts LSU.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:54 pm to Books
bama is always going to have teams around them (SEC teams) to keep them down. or at least challenge them. it will be up and down for them.
texas has basically 1 game a year. i would much rather they get humbled/humiliated.
and again, i work in texas. i don't have any bama fans around me. but a lot of texas fans.
i am fine with you pulling for texas. i am just stating why i would rather bama win.
texas has basically 1 game a year. i would much rather they get humbled/humiliated.
and again, i work in texas. i don't have any bama fans around me. but a lot of texas fans.
i am fine with you pulling for texas. i am just stating why i would rather bama win.
This post was edited on 1/7/10 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:57 pm to Weaver
I don't know how espn will spin a bama lost in regards to the strength of the sec. Considering the big 10 had a good bowl season kirk gaystreit and his goons could start spinning the big 12 and big 10 are gaining ground on the sec.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:59 pm to boogerman77
The SEC's rep will be hurt if Bama loses this game. The SEC will end their bowl season with 5 losses tying it with the PAC 10 for most losses by any conference. Seriously, get with the program. That hurts the SEC, which hurts outlook on the SEC by the media, which affects recruiting for all schools within the SEC.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 3:00 pm to noonan
I actually prefer a meteor to crash land at the 50, but barring that, I prefer the SEC participant to win.
If that makes me less of an LSU graduate, ticket holder, fan, etc in the eyes of some idiots, then so be it.
I think the same thing when they blindly support an idiot coach that has to ask security personnel how many timeouts he had remaining. Alabama winning doesn't hurt LSU. LSU being coached by DiNardo II hurts LSU.
If that makes me less of an LSU graduate, ticket holder, fan, etc in the eyes of some idiots, then so be it.
I think the same thing when they blindly support an idiot coach that has to ask security personnel how many timeouts he had remaining. Alabama winning doesn't hurt LSU. LSU being coached by DiNardo II hurts LSU.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 3:00 pm to boogerman77
BTW, those of you pumping 2 loss LSU in the NC because of the powerful SEC, ask Auburn about that. 13-0 and nothing. That was on the heels of an SEC title, too.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 3:02 pm to Geaux4LSU88
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If that makes me less of an LSU graduate, ticket holder, fan, etc in the eyes of some idiots, then so be it. I think the same thing when they blindly support an idiot coach that has to ask security personnel how many timeouts he had remaining. Alabama winning doesn't hurt LSU. LSU being coached by DiNardo II hurts LSU.
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Posted on 1/7/10 at 3:02 pm to Books
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and they may be again when Saban wins his second NC, that makes bama stronger, and makes LSU's job a lot harder.
or, like when he was at LSU, starts looking for his next challenge. Also, Bama winning could help LSU a little if they have championship hangover next year. It's easier putting up with Saban when you're still trying to get the trophy...
Posted on 1/7/10 at 3:03 pm to Brees Nuts
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The SEC's rep will be hurt if Bama loses this game.
three straight NC's and one loss is gonna hurt the rep? the SEC is the elite conference, that's not dependent on one game.
quote:more specifically, a bama win helps bama recruiting which DIRECTLY affects LSU who has to play them every year
That hurts the SEC, which hurts outlook on the SEC by the media, which affects recruiting for all schools within the SEC.
This post was edited on 1/7/10 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 1/7/10 at 3:05 pm to ForeLSU
where's he gonna go though? bama is arguably the top job in CFB and he's not going back to the NFL. Think it'd be pretty easy to put up w/ Saban when he's able to point to the NC trophy on his desk.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 3:06 pm to Books
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more specifically, a bama win helps bama recruiting which DIRECTLY affects LSU who has to play them every year
What hurts more than all of this is having a freaking idiot for a head coach who is getting destroyed by the media, various coaches, and fans across the nation. That hurts recruiting more than anything.
Don't question our fanhood just because you don't understand how the strength of the SEC Brand helps LSU. Saban is going to take whoever he wants from LSU because he's Nick Saban and we have Les Miles. It doesn't matter what Bama does tonight.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 3:08 pm to Brees Nuts
quote:agree, esp compared to a two time NC winner over at bama
What hurts more than all of this is having a freaking idiot for a head coach who is getting destroyed by the media, various coaches, and fans across the nation. That hurts recruiting more than anything.
quote:wtf are you talking about? where did I question your fanhood?
Don't question our fanhood j
quote:and that's not changing based on one game when the SEC has long established it's reputation.
because you don't understand how the strength of the SEC Brand helps LSU
quote:this is flat out stupid.
Saban is going to take whoever he wants from LSU because he's Nick Saban and we have Les Miles. It doesn't matter what Bama does tonight.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 3:11 pm to Books
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where's he gonna go though? bama is arguably the top job in CFB and he's not going back to the NFL.
Penn State would be the only thing he might possibly be interested in. Honestly, I think he is driven by the turn-around. If you looked how he has jumped around, it doesn't seem to me that trying to sustain something over the long haul is that thrilling to him. Just my amateur observation though.
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Think it'd be pretty easy to put up w/ Saban when he's able to point to the NC trophy on his desk.
I'm talking about the players mainly, it's a little harder to be relentlessly driven once you've achieved the ultimate goal. I don't expect them to drop off, but many teams suffer from championship hangover.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 3:15 pm to Chazz Reinhold
This is why I love blogs - because they allow people to blend opinion and fact, and hope that no one recognizes the difference.
Fact of the matter is that the only benefit that can come from this game (as it relates to the Tigers) is if Bama wins, and the perception of the SEC being a dominant conference continues. Period. Whether Bama wins or not, they're still going to be incredibly difficult to recruit against - they've been to the SECCG two years in a row, won 1 of those games, and they have arguably the best recruiter in all of college football. So understanding that their ability to recruit strongly will be marginally effected by tonight's outcome, why would you not prefer for them to win, in hopes that LSU - as a member of the SEC conference - would derive SOME benefit from that win? It's absurd.
Look at it this way: If Bama wins, it continues to paint the SEC as a dominant conference. Those perceptions are what help influence the arbitrary ranking systems that place teams ahead of other teams early in the season. Thus a Bama win helps ALL SEC schools - even those that only play the higher ranked SEC teams, but don't fall into the early top 25 polls themselves.
Opinion separated from Fact.
Fact of the matter is that the only benefit that can come from this game (as it relates to the Tigers) is if Bama wins, and the perception of the SEC being a dominant conference continues. Period. Whether Bama wins or not, they're still going to be incredibly difficult to recruit against - they've been to the SECCG two years in a row, won 1 of those games, and they have arguably the best recruiter in all of college football. So understanding that their ability to recruit strongly will be marginally effected by tonight's outcome, why would you not prefer for them to win, in hopes that LSU - as a member of the SEC conference - would derive SOME benefit from that win? It's absurd.
Look at it this way: If Bama wins, it continues to paint the SEC as a dominant conference. Those perceptions are what help influence the arbitrary ranking systems that place teams ahead of other teams early in the season. Thus a Bama win helps ALL SEC schools - even those that only play the higher ranked SEC teams, but don't fall into the early top 25 polls themselves.
Opinion separated from Fact.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 3:16 pm to Chazz Reinhold
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If you pull for any other SEC west team to succeed you ae hurting your own school more than it helps. You are basically a closet Bama fan...............
even though your post seems to be targeted at a specific fan segment, i think one can pull for anyone they want. i don't think it hurts LSU one damn bit if Bama wins tonight. it might even help us if they suffer a post NC letdown and saban slows down some (not saying he will but i think he will). I hate bama but i've been an SEC guy for 60 yrs and i'm pulling for them because they are an SEC team. also, i live in big 12 land and loathe the "my shite doesn't stink" texas longhorns.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 3:16 pm to DallasTigerFan
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Opinion separated from Fact.
yeah...noPosted on 1/7/10 at 3:19 pm to ForeLSU
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I'm talking about the players mainly, it's a little harder to be relentlessly driven once you've achieved the ultimate goal. I don't expect them to drop off, but many teams suffer from championship hangover.
this is one of the reasons why it is so hard to go back to back.
everyone had florida going back to back. didn't happen. they did come close though.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 3:21 pm to Books
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yeah...no
Intelegent and creative, all at the same time.
Why don't you try telling me what's inaccurate about what I wrote. A smiley face and the words "yeah...no" isn't very challenging.....
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