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re: Rotation next year
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:07 pm to GMoney2600
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:07 pm to GMoney2600
Take your pick from the top 4 of Walker, Hilliard, Labas, Storz, Gilbert, Hill, Marceaux, Henry for the 4 starters.
Peterson setup.
Hess closer.
Hole E shite
Peterson setup.
Hess closer.
Hole E shite
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Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:08 pm to Broski
I say this as a huge Alan Dunn supporter... if we dont have 4 guys next year that are established starting pitchers, he needs to be fired. There’s just way too much talent to not have that, even if 1 or 2 guys inevitably have TJ or shoulder issues next year
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:09 pm to Broski
I would never say no doubt on a guy coming back from major surgery and another who had to have his season shut down.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:09 pm to Broski
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Yep and I remember reading somewhere a month or so back that his rehab was ahead of schedule.
Yea and they flirted with the idea that he might throw a little game time this postseason a couple months back. I think if would have made it to Omaha you might have seen an inning from him
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:10 pm to Lester Earl
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Hess
Marceaux
Hilliard
Walker mid week
So you think Walker wont be back to his freshman self? because he was arguably the best pitcher then on a staff that had Alex Lange on it.
He’s nit a midweek guy.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:10 pm to Broski
Routine or not, it’s a risk. He might be better, he might come back throwing 85. I said it’s something to watch for next season, I didn’t say it was career ending.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:11 pm to Broski
If our draft luck holds out. We will have 7 or 8 legit possible starters. Is this what its like to be one of the four Florida fans?
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:12 pm to ell_13
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If our draft luck holds out. We will have 7 or 8 legit possible starters. Is this what its like to be one of the four Florida fans?
We comin!!!
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:13 pm to bugafor6
Rarely do TJ pitchers return with less strength. And it’s not a result of the surgery itself. It’s that they get a full year to reset, retrain, rebuild the entire arm. You’re in better shape, you have better mechanics, etc. Technically any player could do it.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:13 pm to ell_13
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We will have 7 or 8 legit possible starters. Is this what its like to be one of the four Florida fans?
I don't know but my dick is harder than Luke Heimlichs at a One Direction concert.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:14 pm to bugafor6
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Routine or not, it’s a risk. He might be better, he might come back throwing 85. I said it’s something to watch for next season, I didn’t say it was career ending.
Find me the latest case where a dude coming out of TJ lost his velocity after a successful rehab...
I’ll wait.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:16 pm to Broski
For real, I’ve seen people have issues with control after, but that’s probably mechanics for than anything I would guess. You don’t see them lose velocity.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:16 pm to ell_13
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Rarely do TJ pitchers return with less strength. And it’s not a result of the surgery itself. It’s that they get a full year to reset, retrain, rebuild the entire arm. You’re in better shape, you have better mechanics, etc. Technically any player could do it.
Right. He’s more likely to come back throwing 91-93 than he is to come back throwing 85.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:17 pm to bugafor6
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He might be better, he might come back throwing 85
That's not really something that happens. The success rate for TJ is ridiculously high. Those guys usually come back throwing harder and better. Partly because 1) no telling how long their elbow has been slightly injured before the tendon broke and 2) theyve had a whole year of resting and working out.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:17 pm to Broski
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So you think Walker wont be back to his freshman self? because he was arguably the best pitcher then on a staff that had Alex Lange on it.
As a RHP with average velocity, it’s hard to be as good as he was on a year to year basis. Just has less wiggle room for mistakes.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:18 pm to Lester Earl
You’re severely underrating him.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:19 pm to Broski
Just to reference your statement, out of the last 4 big MLB guys to have TJ (Harvey, Fernandez, Moore and Corbin) the only one that regressed was Harvey, and that was because he was a head case more than TJ
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:20 pm to Lester Earl
His placement and his ground ball rate make him borderline elite in college baseball. It’s not all about velocity. See LSU 2017, we made guys throwing 95 look like we were hitting soft toss and then get sat down buy guys that throw 80-poo
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:21 pm to Lester Earl
quote:This sounds like a bigger problem for Hilliard than Walker. One is more likely to have control over the other.
As a RHP with average velocity, it’s hard to be as good as he was on a year to year basis. Just has less wiggle room for mistakes.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 9:22 pm to Broski
After a quick google search, Matt Moore lost velocity and was never the same. Harvey didn’t lose velocity, but was also never the same.
Again, not saying his career is over, or he won’t be the same. It’s still a reconstructive surgery, which comes with a risk.
Again, not saying his career is over, or he won’t be the same. It’s still a reconstructive surgery, which comes with a risk.
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