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Posted on 10/12/09 at 2:07 pm to Antonio Moss
We can't in one hand say that Crowton gave us our greatest offense in 2007 (with Flynn -who had a sum total of 1 start till then) and on the other say that he sucks - I mean that is a logical non sequitur.
I am saying that maybe we are having a bad luck of QBs who need more time in the system to become great and realize their potential. So maybe next year JJ carries us to the promised land - it doesn't always have to be on the coaches (though there might be other issues that they can be faulted with)
I am saying that maybe we are having a bad luck of QBs who need more time in the system to become great and realize their potential. So maybe next year JJ carries us to the promised land - it doesn't always have to be on the coaches (though there might be other issues that they can be faulted with)
Posted on 10/12/09 at 2:08 pm to AP83
You have lost your credibility on the QB topic ever since you said Tebow won the NC when he was a sophomore.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 2:09 pm to AP83
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How do you guys know it is the coaches. Maybe they beat him over the head about the right things to do every day and come game time he goes brain dead. Maybe he just does not get it. Just because a player fails does not mean the coaches are not coaching him.
The kid ran the spread offense to perfection and was undefeated his entire high school career. The coaches are asking him to do things he's NEVER done. That's not on the kid man, that's the coaches.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 2:10 pm to Mobo03
I feel bad for the guy honestly. I think hes just so afraid that one of his mistakes is going to lose the game. He's 19 years old and doesnt want to be THAT guy getting blasted ESPN.
However, if you're the starting QB it comes with the territory. Gotta man up and have confidence, cant play "not to lose" all the time.
You could see at the end of the game when we were down, he was making throws with confidence because he had nothing to lose.
However, if you're the starting QB it comes with the territory. Gotta man up and have confidence, cant play "not to lose" all the time.
You could see at the end of the game when we were down, he was making throws with confidence because he had nothing to lose.
This post was edited on 10/12/09 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 10/12/09 at 2:12 pm to CalTiger
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We can't in one hand say that Crowton gave us our greatest offense in 2007 (with Flynn -who had a sum total of 1 start till then) and on the other say that he sucks - I mean that is a logical non sequitur.
Not really, since that is Crowton's trend through his career. He inherited a veteran team and Flynn was a senior.
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I am saying that maybe we are having a bad luck of QBs who need more time in the system to become great and realize their potential.
Maybe, but two touted QBs in a row that dont progress as the season goes on? Points to lack of coaching to me. We need a QB coach.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 2:21 pm to biglego
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You have lost your credibility on the QB topic ever since you said Tebow won the NC when he was a sophomore.
First off I didn't start this topic and sorry I was off a year on Tebow. We can't all be as big of a looser as you and post on TD over 20,000 times. Get a frickin life.
You have lost your credibility on the QB topic ever since you said Tebow won the NC when he was a sophomore.
First off I didn't start this topic and sorry I was off a year on Tebow. We can't all be as big of a looser as you and post on TD over 20,000 times. Get a frickin life.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 2:22 pm to AP83
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First off I didn't start this topic and sorry I was off a year on Tebow. We can't all be as big of a looser as you and post on TD over 20,000 times. Get a frickin life.
And the hits just keep on coming.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 2:25 pm to MightyYat
Damn I did it again. The said thing is I have a minor in English 
. Oh well.
. Oh well.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 2:29 pm to biglego
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Not really, since that is Crowton's trend through his career. He inherited a veteran team and Flynn was a senior.
so you think he just walked in and continued running Jimbo Fisher's system? without Jimbo Fisher calling the plays?
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Maybe, but two touted QBs in a row that dont progress as the season goes on? Points to lack of coaching to me. We need a QB coach.
RP didn't get any better either?
lee was a RS Freshmen that played one and a half years of HS football and showed HORRIFIC QB mechanics and decision making skills
JJ was a HS QB that played on a HS team surrounded by Div 1 recruits and all he had to do was his Steve MacNair impersonation to win games. Then he comes to LSU and gets thrown into the deep end of the pool with the season going down the drain and he did a credible job.
Now he is a Sophomore learning on the job as the QB of the #10 ranked team in the country and you don't think he is getting better because he flamed out against the #1 team in the country with the #1 defense and 4 NFL First round draft picks on their top 11?
yeah OK
and Crowton is the QB coach
Posted on 10/12/09 at 2:30 pm to AP83
quote:Where did I say you did?
First off I didn't start this topic
quote:Apology accepted.
sorry I was off a year on Tebow.
The real point is, when Tebow was a sophomore, like JJ is this year, he led the Gators to FOUR LOSSES! That kind of destroys your whole point, doesn't it? quote:Classic irony!
We can't all be as big of a looser as you
quote:But....but, but...TigerDroppings IS my life!!!
Get a frickin life.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 2:31 pm to AP83
quote:You have GOT to be kidding us, right?!?
The said thing is I have a minor in English
Posted on 10/12/09 at 2:32 pm to biglego
But someone in another thread has actually shown proper facts/stats about Crowton improving his QBs and Flynn learned from him too. So why is JJ and co not able to do so?
Please refer to my post. Raw talent, and that is as far as this kid is able to go. End of story.
Please refer to my post. Raw talent, and that is as far as this kid is able to go. End of story.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 2:32 pm to MightyYat
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The kid ran the spread offense to perfection and was undefeated his entire high school career.
Not high school anymore.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 2:34 pm to ginms
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But what I give a damn about is LSU. Get the kid out of there and put jl and rs and for god's sake Randle.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 2:35 pm to ginms
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But someone in another thread has actually shown proper facts/stats about Crowton improving his QBs and Flynn learned from him too. So why is JJ and co not able to do so?
perhaps because we ran a different system with different personnel back then?
Posted on 10/12/09 at 2:47 pm to lsu1208
Thank you lsu1208. Thank god someone else sees this besides me. 
I will buy you a beer when this happens.
I will buy you a beer when this happens. Posted on 10/12/09 at 2:47 pm to AP83
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Harris the qb from Miami is the same age and int he same class. He has not struggled, he looks like a stud.
Is he also being met in the backfield by the defensive end, at the end of his seven step drops?
Again....................until we get the OL fixed, it's not gonna matter much who we put back there.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 2:54 pm to Reverend RIGHT
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Not high school anymore.
No shite but the kid knows how to play football. He is being asked to run an offense that he has never run before. That would be tough for anyone.
Posted on 10/12/09 at 3:07 pm to MightyYat
Ranters,
In JJ's defense, the wide-receivers didn't help the situation either. There were several drops in the game that could have moved the chains for us and kept the drives alive. TT dropped a few passes thrown in his direction. Also, the TH drop could have gone for a great gain. I just think that you can't place blame on one individual player. The entire offensive unit needs to keep the mistakes to a minimum. Believe it or not, we were still very much in this game and close to possibly even taking the lead. We just need to get better. I have faith that these issues will be ironed out come Auburn.
In JJ's defense, the wide-receivers didn't help the situation either. There were several drops in the game that could have moved the chains for us and kept the drives alive. TT dropped a few passes thrown in his direction. Also, the TH drop could have gone for a great gain. I just think that you can't place blame on one individual player. The entire offensive unit needs to keep the mistakes to a minimum. Believe it or not, we were still very much in this game and close to possibly even taking the lead. We just need to get better. I have faith that these issues will be ironed out come Auburn.
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