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re: So those bitching about chavis
Posted on 11/28/10 at 7:48 pm to Weaver
Posted on 11/28/10 at 7:48 pm to Weaver
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You do realize our offense is in the 90's and our defense is or was number 5. If the offense can't stay on the field the d will get tired.
anyone bitching about the d obviously has selective memory. saban lost to arkansas with them making an 84 yard drive on three plays with 18 seconds left to win the game. by the way, the s.e.c. championship game was on the line.
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Posted on 11/28/10 at 7:48 pm to Weaver
Overall Chavis' defense was responsible for most of our great record, but the breakdown at the end of the 1st half was just pitiful. Why he did not have the team in a prevent is inexcusable. I am also a bit concerned about his ability to defense a read option team.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:00 pm to Weaver
We dominated the TOP battle in the first half, yet Arky had over 200 passing yards, and if I am not mistaken, over 300 total yards.
That's pathetic. Our offense did not cause our defense to play poorly. Our defense is really mediocre. We've just played enough horrid offenses to inflate the statistics.
I'm not saying we should fire Chavis. I'm in line with some of the other posters on this site. He is what he is: An average to solid defensive coordinator.
Also, what happened versus Ole Miss? Our offense played well in that game, yet we gave up over 30 points and tons of yardage.
That's pathetic. Our offense did not cause our defense to play poorly. Our defense is really mediocre. We've just played enough horrid offenses to inflate the statistics.
I'm not saying we should fire Chavis. I'm in line with some of the other posters on this site. He is what he is: An average to solid defensive coordinator.
Also, what happened versus Ole Miss? Our offense played well in that game, yet we gave up over 30 points and tons of yardage.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:05 pm to Butterfingers
quote:How we quickly forget the UK/LSU game. Anyone that says they wouldn't have scored against a prevent defense is laughable.
Clairborne was trailing the reciever and Hatcher was the only one back. Even Hawthorne prior to the play being snapped was asking where the heck the DB's were. PP was on the other side of the field covering a reciever and Eric Reid was about 15 yards behind the play. The players should have been positioned deep and told no one gets behind you.
Bluegrass Miracle
The team was in position to stop the play. Hatcher doesn't go for the big hit, that's the half.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:21 pm to LSUMafia
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That's bad. Very bad given the number of shitty offenses we played all year.
I hate seeing stats like these. Something new to worry about... Again.
This post was edited on 11/28/10 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:23 pm to JawjaTigah
Every defense this year has been bad. I can't think of one team that has a dominating defense this year.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:42 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
quote:Somehow that is not comforting. I'm not interested in what every other team does or does not do, just LSU.
Every defense this year has been bad.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:51 pm to LSUMafia
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Chavis = good but not great DC. Plain and simple.
I followed up to one of your posts about this topic last night...don't know if you saw it but you're absolutely right.
To recap, we built our badass defense reputation by doing very well against teams not ranked in the top half of the FBS in yards per game. When it came to the ones in the top half plus UNC who was just barely in the lower half, we gave up yardage to a tune of an average of 400 yards per game. That includes getting shredded by an Ole Miss team that our offense played very well against.
Also, the tired defense rationale while not entirely wrong, doesn't hold up if you have a truly dominant D. Check out the Big 12 CG last year where NU held a very potent UT offense to 200 total yds, despite their own offense barely having 100.
Our D is just not elite...they're solid, nothing more. But once the moments of truth came after such a major buildup, I believe it made the inevitable fall that much more of a disappointment.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:55 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
excellent post! Another person who gets it 
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:15 pm to Mudminnow
guys, we had a couple of key injuries this year. at safety and on the Dline.
i have to admit we did really bad against the running qb's, but linebacker has been the weakness on the team. i was surprised the younger guys didn't get more PT because of this.
college football has changed. i don't know that we will see dominating defense anytime soon. offenses are so damn good and fast AND the great players aren't around for their senior seasons. This hurts a lot.
i have to admit we did really bad against the running qb's, but linebacker has been the weakness on the team. i was surprised the younger guys didn't get more PT because of this.
college football has changed. i don't know that we will see dominating defense anytime soon. offenses are so damn good and fast AND the great players aren't around for their senior seasons. This hurts a lot.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:23 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
Good comparison to the Nebraska team.
My biggest concerns with this year's defense are two things:
The inordinate number of big plays given up
The tendency for this defense to give up long drives when a stop was utterly necessary. They had no killer instinct to me.
Any game that was close, you didn't have faith that this defense would stop them at the critical time.
This happened against UNC, Tennessee, UF, Auburn, Bama, Ole Miss, and Arkansas.
You can claim it was fatigue, but it doesn't work for the Tennessee, UF, Bama, and Ole Miss games. In those games our offense was controlling the clock and the ball.
My biggest concerns with this year's defense are two things:
The inordinate number of big plays given up
The tendency for this defense to give up long drives when a stop was utterly necessary. They had no killer instinct to me.
Any game that was close, you didn't have faith that this defense would stop them at the critical time.
This happened against UNC, Tennessee, UF, Auburn, Bama, Ole Miss, and Arkansas.
You can claim it was fatigue, but it doesn't work for the Tennessee, UF, Bama, and Ole Miss games. In those games our offense was controlling the clock and the ball.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:30 pm to LSUMafia
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The tendency for this defense to give up long drives when a stop was utterly necessary. They had no killer instinct to me.
Any game that was close, you didn't have faith that this defense would stop them at the critical time.
This happened against UNC, Tennessee, UF, Auburn, Bama, Ole Miss, and Arkansas
no question...especially against Bama...that 3rd and long that Lee converted was so huge...i had absolutely zero confidence we would stop them if they got the ball back.
not to mention it should have been a huge red flag that NC was able to achieve what they did against us with so many critical players out.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:36 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
quote:Very true. From this I became concerned LSU would go 6-6 for the season. Happy to say that was a wrong conclusion, which the 10-2 record proves. However, the fact remains our defense wasn't elite versus the last 4 SEC opponents - look at their yardage each game. We have lots of work to be done on both O and D.
...a huge red flag that NC was able to achieve what they did against us with so many critical players out.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:27 pm to LSUMafia
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As Tennessee's DC while Spurrier was at UF, UT was a resounding......drum roll........:
2-5.
Yup, he figured out Spurrier consistently. In 2001, his defense gave up 32 to UF.
His only true success against UF was when Zook was there.
This is the answer i was looking for.
It is starting to look like Les has not done a good job of replacing coaches he has lost.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:30 pm to Weaver
Oh I completely agree....
However the 80 yard touchdown at the end of the half with 6 seconds left was certainly a WTF kinda thing..
However the 80 yard touchdown at the end of the half with 6 seconds left was certainly a WTF kinda thing..
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