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re: Sportscenter says SEC overrated.
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:40 am to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:40 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:Only if you think that not showing up for a bowl is better than going to a bowl and losing.
The Pac 10 had a better bowl record than the SEC last year, just saying
Pac-10, 10 teams, 5-0
SEC, 12 teams, 6-3
In my opinion, though 5-0 is a higher winning percentage, 6-3 is the better record.
Better yet, let's include non-bowl teams in the standings.
Conference | wins | losses | non-bowl teams
Pac-10, 5-0-5
SEC, 6-3-3
SEC > Pac-10
This post was edited on 11/28/09 at 11:42 am
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Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:40 am to DocBugbear
quote:
The PAC-10 plays a bunch of bowls against the Big-10
The PAC 10 only has one tie-in the the BIG 10 and that is the Rose Bowl. The SEC has two tie-ins with the BIG 10 (Outback, Cap One).
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:41 am to tigafan89
Two Words: Better Coaches 
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:42 am to xiv
DOn't confuse him with facts.
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:44 am to LSUnowhas2
quote:
Since 2001 the Pac-10 is 26 - 19 in bowl games.
Since 2001 the SEC is 38 - 22.
we are talking about 2009, not 2001-2008.
For the Decade it is unquestionably the SEC
quote:
But yeah, the Pac-10 is way better
This exemplifies my point. Rantards see what you want to see and have to over-exaggerate if some one does not 100% agree with your view that the SEC is over all and all other confences suck. I sometimes think some rantards actually believe Vandy or West Monroe would win the Pac 10 or Big 10
I said it was DEBATABLE between the SEC and Pac 10 for 2009 which was the best conference, because the PAc 10 has depth. How you can interpret that into way better is beyond me.
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:45 am to TxTiger82
quote:
The PAC 10 only has one tie-in the the BIG 10 and that is the Rose Bowl. The SEC has two tie-ins with the BIG 10 (Outback, Cap One).
Fine I stand corrected. Of their five wins last year, one was against the Big-10, one was against the Big East, and one was against the Mountain West.
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:45 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:
I said it was DEBATABLE between the SEC and Pac 10 for 2009 which was the best conference
Nuance is lost on the Rant. My position is that the SEC is the best, but not by as much as everyone thinks.
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:47 am to xiv
quote:
In my opinion, though 5-0 is a higher winning percentage, 6-3 is the better record.
1.000 > .6667, that's not debatable Mr Math.
quote:
SEC > Pac-10
in 2008, no doubt about it.
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:48 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:I said exactly that, Mr. English.
1.000 > .6667, that's not debatable Mr Math.
1.000 > .667
but
6-3-3 > 5-0-5
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:50 am to H-Town Tiger
I never said all other conferences suck. I just said that the SEC is the best conference. Top to bottom, the SEC is the best year in and year out.
All you need to do is look at NFL rosters and the SEC has more players on NFL rosters than any other conference in football. USC may have the most of any one team but the Pac-10 doesn't have the most of any conference.
All you need to do is look at NFL rosters and the SEC has more players on NFL rosters than any other conference in football. USC may have the most of any one team but the Pac-10 doesn't have the most of any conference.
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:52 am to LSUnowhas2
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:55 am to tigafan89
SEC has been down the last two. This year, its pretty bad. Neither Bama or UF should be undefeated at this point, the fact both are speaks volumes of how down the SEC is this year.
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:55 am to LSUnowhas2
LINK
Interesting stat on BCS conferences vs BCS conference, its 2 years old, but from 98-07 check out what conference has the best winning percentage against other BCS conferences:
Pacific 10: 54.5%
Southeastern: 50.8%
Big Ten: 50.5%
Atlantic Coast: 50%
Big 12: 48.8%
Big East: 45.9%
Interesting stat on BCS conferences vs BCS conference, its 2 years old, but from 98-07 check out what conference has the best winning percentage against other BCS conferences:
Pacific 10: 54.5%
Southeastern: 50.8%
Big Ten: 50.5%
Atlantic Coast: 50%
Big 12: 48.8%
Big East: 45.9%
This post was edited on 11/28/09 at 11:59 am
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:58 am to xiv
quote:
1.000 > .667
This is the actual bowl winning percentages.
quote:
6-3-3 > 5-0-5
this is a stat made up by xiv to support his argument.
Please note, the SEC was easily the best conference in 2008. the Pac 10 was toward the bottom in 2008, that is why USC was left out of the BCS CG.
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:04 pm to LSUnowhas2
quote:
never said all other conferences suck. I just said that the SEC is the best conference. Top to bottom, the SEC is the best year in and year out.
You may not, but many tards on here do.
No one, even the media and Bristol mafia would argue that the SEC is not the best conference historically.
I was merely arguing that for 2009 (and only 2009, no history factored in) that its debatable.
The SEC is always in the debate, to that end it will always be viewed by some as over rated, because there are often teams like this year's LSU that hover in the top, but really may not be that good.
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:05 pm to tigafan89
Shouldn't they wait until after the bowl season?
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:11 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:Correct (except that statistics are compiled and not made up). Unlike most, I provide evidence to support my views. You say it like it's a bad thing.
this is a stat made up by xiv to support his argument.
This post was edited on 11/28/09 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:13 pm to tigafan89
quote:
While discussing the SEC, they were saying Florida and Bama own the SEC while all the other teams are down this year.
Why do people hate hearing the truth?
If you accept the truth, then you can take steps to correct the issues/ If you ignore the truth, nothing will change.
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:15 pm to xiv
quote:
except that statistics are compiled and not made up
no one but you complied a stat of teams not in bowl games.
Overall in 2008, SEC > Pac 10.
In Bowls, the Pac 10 was better. 5-0 > 6-3.
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:20 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:The SEC was better than the Pac-10 in Bowls.
In Bowls, the Pac 5 was better. 5-0 > 6-3.
The SEC was not better than the Pac-5 in Bowls.
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