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re: Stephen Rivers...why no love?
Posted on 8/3/12 at 12:17 pm to TXGunslinger10
Posted on 8/3/12 at 12:17 pm to TXGunslinger10
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He could still be a good QB if he had half of the arm strength of his All pro NFL QB of a brother.
I read somewhere he was better in HS than Phillip FWIW. I think the kid has alot of potential
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Posted on 8/3/12 at 12:29 pm to Prominentwon
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People tend to think that every QB should be ready to go a year into the system. That's just idiotic.
Not to mention, I think it was always known Rivers was a couple year project. From what limited video is out so far (and it is very limited) he looks to be throwing the ball well.
Posted on 8/3/12 at 12:34 pm to LSUEnvy
He's not good! Cry me a river.
Posted on 8/3/12 at 12:52 pm to TXGunslinger10
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But look at Matthew Stafford or Aaron Murray...started as freshmen. Didn't try to do more than what they were asked, and did fine.
Stafford was garbage as a freshman.
Posted on 8/3/12 at 12:54 pm to jprice4608
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He's not good! Cry me a river.
Post and run!
I love those guys.
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But look at Matthew Stafford or Aaron Murray...started as freshmen. Didn't try to do more than what they were asked, and did fine.
Exceptions, not the rule.
Posted on 8/3/12 at 1:20 pm to Prominentwon
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Exceptions, not the rule
Not necessarily...
It could be the rule, with the variable of a good QB coach.
Take the variable out, and it becomes the exception.
Posted on 8/3/12 at 1:23 pm to TXGunslinger10
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After Mett,
Stopped reading there.
Posted on 8/3/12 at 1:37 pm to saintsfan22
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But look at Matthew Stafford or Aaron Murray...started as freshmen. Didn't try to do more than what they were asked, and did fine.
Stafford was garbage as a freshman
yeah I think somebody needs to read up on Stafford a bit more. I wouldn't quite call him garbage, but he did try to do too much early before settling down and playing within himself. had a few games where he was pretty INT prone.
Posted on 8/3/12 at 2:11 pm to DEG
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Miles is NEVER going to let another season come down to a freshman under center - even if it's a redshirt freshman. Our program should have enough depth to be able to run a Junior out there, even as a #2.
+1 to this. I think the reason that a redshirt freshman like jlee was thrown in so early was due in part to saban leaving us like he did. We are just now recovering from that hole in the class. I really hope we never are in that situation again
Posted on 8/3/12 at 2:18 pm to TXGunslinger10
The last time yall tossed in a freshmen to start he ended up with a ridiculous amount of pick 6s. I'm sure LM would love to keep Randall and Rivers away from live action (except for blowouts) for another year or so.
Posted on 8/3/12 at 2:19 pm to Burt Reynolds
Quit acting like you know what Les is going to do...NOBODY knows what Les is going to do. Conventional wisdom does not apply here.
Posted on 8/3/12 at 2:20 pm to TXGunslinger10
None of us really know anything about Rivers and what he may contribute in the future. And he was not a blue chip ultra-talented recruit that people anxiously count down the seconds til his playing days.
He's just an unknown to fans at this point.
That's not good nor bad...It is what it is. The coaches will know when he's ready, if ever.
He's just an unknown to fans at this point.
That's not good nor bad...It is what it is. The coaches will know when he's ready, if ever.
This post was edited on 8/3/12 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 8/3/12 at 2:31 pm to Burt Reynolds
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+1 to this. I think the reason that a redshirt freshman like jlee was thrown in so early was due in part to saban leaving us like he did. We are just now recovering from that hole in the class. I really hope we never are in that situation again
uh, the reason why is because our starting QB was kicked off the team. Saban leaving didn't have much to do with any of that. 2008 was the 4th season after he left. That's an entire recruiting cycle. Miles also screwed up by not getting a single QB in the 2006 class. He signed he #7 class in the country but with no QBs. Everything looked fine because we had Jamrcus, Flynn, and Perrilloux on the roster, but when 2 of those are upper classmen, you're really putting yourself behind the 8 ball relying on a wild card like Perrilloux. The whole situation was just a mess, and if RP had never been booted, no one would ever even be talking about this right now.
Posted on 8/3/12 at 3:58 pm to TXGunslinger10
Apparently the last couple days he has looked very sharp.
Posted on 8/3/12 at 4:06 pm to brewhan davey
he lacks the arm strength and stength in general right now. mechanically things look funky, but the same is true for his brother. he needs time, but that is to be expected. we won't know enough about him before or after this season in most likelihood.
Posted on 8/4/12 at 11:35 am to saintsfan22
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Stafford was garbage as a freshman.
Named SEC Freshman of the Week twice during the 2006 season.
Named Rivals.com's National Freshman of the Week for his performance against Auburn
Received the University of Georgia's 2006 Offensive Newcomer of the Year Award.
Named to the 2006 SEC Coaches' All-Freshman Team.
Named Offensive MVP of the 2006 Chick-fil-A Bowl
Posted on 8/4/12 at 11:36 am to easy money
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he lacks the arm strength
Posted on 8/4/12 at 12:41 pm to ATLTiger
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But look at Matthew Stafford or Aaron Murray...started as freshmen. Didn't try to do more than what they were asked, and did fine.
Stafford was garbage as a freshman
yeah I think somebody needs to read up on Stafford a bit more. I wouldn't quite call him garbage, but he did try to do too much early before settling down and playing within himself. had a few games where he was pretty INT prone.
Might as well throw David Greene, 4-yr starter after taking a RS in 2000. UGA has had some very talented passing QBs, + Shockley, and at some point one has to say Richt is a good QB coach. If a guy has ability and composure then starting as a RSF, especially on a team with talent in all 3 aspects of the sport, isn't the worst thing ever.
If Rivers hadn't needed to add 30+ lbs when he arrived at LSU he might be further along. 6'7", 190 lbs, yeah he would have been awesome going against a front from Bama or UGA. I hope he pans out for the program.
Posted on 8/4/12 at 1:06 pm to adammwilson
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Named SEC Freshman of the Week twice during the 2006 season.
Named Rivals.com's National Freshman of the Week for his performance against Auburn
Received the University of Georgia's 2006 Offensive Newcomer of the Year Award.
Named to the 2006 SEC Coaches' All-Freshman Team.
Named Offensive MVP of the 2006 Chick-fil-A Bowl
52% completion 7 TDs and 13 INTs.
Posted on 8/4/12 at 1:18 pm to saintsfan22
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52% completion 7 TDs and 13 INTs.
Tommy Hodson didn't too too badly his frosh year.
It takes an extraordinary person to walk into a program and set the world on fire your first or second year but it can happen. I don't think people are looking for something like this out of Rivers or Randall, just someone who can step in and throw a pass or two if needed.
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