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re: Thank You Gerry D
Posted on 4/6/09 at 8:54 am to MICK MAN
Posted on 4/6/09 at 8:54 am to MICK MAN
It really hurt me to watch what happened to GD because I thought the guy was a class act and represented LSU very well. I think he really loved being at LSU.
As some others have said, he laid the foundation of our present success and I've yet to hear any of the Sabanista's give him any credit for The Biggest Little Prick's success.
As some others have said, he laid the foundation of our present success and I've yet to hear any of the Sabanista's give him any credit for The Biggest Little Prick's success.
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Posted on 4/6/09 at 9:01 am to TheDoc
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still think gerry's situation was a good learning experience for the les miles era.
you don't "experiement" with the defensive coordinators
agreed
Posted on 4/6/09 at 9:08 am to lsucoon
fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...
i'm looking for a new job.
i'm looking for a new job.
Posted on 4/6/09 at 9:11 am to Fatso
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GD brought the "Magic Back".
How many SEC victories did LSU have in his last season?
Offense wasn't a problem? When Herb Tyler left we had three HS All American Quarterbacks and our offense was terrible.
Gerry's selection of assistants was on par with Miles promoting Peveto and Mallory.
He turned down Rich Rodriguez for OC and selected McConnel.
You guys are a riot.
Posted on 4/6/09 at 9:12 am to tduecen
Let's not forget....It was Gerry that brought the white jerseys home to Tiger Stadium 
Posted on 4/6/09 at 9:17 am to ITtigah
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You guys are a riot.
About what? Did Dinardo not bring us from 6 straight losing seasons and the bowels of the SEC to a decent SEC team that had the foundations laid for Saban's success? That's all anyone is saying. They aren't calling him the Godfather of LSU or anything. The reality is that the man pulled us up at least 2/3rds of the way out of the hole that Hallman dug and set the table for Saban.
Don't be an asshat.
Posted on 4/6/09 at 9:20 am to tduecen
I think Hallman gets more discredit than he deserves, and I think people try to give DiNardo more credit than he deserves. While both firings were justified, I really don't want to bash so I will just point out some facts.
o Hallman inherited a veritable disaster in terms of both talent on the team and in recruiting from Archer. Hallman was the one to start rebuilding relationships with LA high schools.
o In terms of NFL quality athletes, Hallman increased the talent pool significantly over what he inherited.
o When he was fired, Hallman handled it professionally, continued recruiting and did what he could to make DiNardo's start successful.
o While DiNardo may have increased the talent level of role players (I really don't know if this is true or not), he really did not increase the level of NFL talent over what he inherited from Hallman. He pretty much maintained the same level.
o After 3 yrs of DiNardo recruiting LSU was 4-7. After 4 years we were 3-8.
o DiNardo did not handle his firing professionally. He stopped recruiting and left it in such a state that Saban decided he had to start from scratch when he arrived.
DiNardo deserves credit for the good things he did, but he was not the savior. His firing was as justified as Hallman's.
o Hallman inherited a veritable disaster in terms of both talent on the team and in recruiting from Archer. Hallman was the one to start rebuilding relationships with LA high schools.
o In terms of NFL quality athletes, Hallman increased the talent pool significantly over what he inherited.
o When he was fired, Hallman handled it professionally, continued recruiting and did what he could to make DiNardo's start successful.
o While DiNardo may have increased the talent level of role players (I really don't know if this is true or not), he really did not increase the level of NFL talent over what he inherited from Hallman. He pretty much maintained the same level.
o After 3 yrs of DiNardo recruiting LSU was 4-7. After 4 years we were 3-8.
o DiNardo did not handle his firing professionally. He stopped recruiting and left it in such a state that Saban decided he had to start from scratch when he arrived.
DiNardo deserves credit for the good things he did, but he was not the savior. His firing was as justified as Hallman's.
Posted on 4/6/09 at 9:21 am to extremetigerfanatic
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Don't be an asshat.
Some people just can't help themselves! They are what they are!
Posted on 4/6/09 at 9:24 am to roygu
quote:Not one of his better choices. However he did raise the level of our program, no question about that. Plus, he's never had a bad word about LSU, that Im aware of. I like the Italian bastard.
He turned down Rich Rodriguez for OC and selected McConnel.
Posted on 4/6/09 at 9:25 am to Indiana Tiger
quote:those records are not indicative of Dinardo's recruiting abilities, it was his staff management abilities. I believe we led the SEC in many offensive stats but we were prob around last in scoring defense and dead last in pass defense due to Lou Tepper being a complete moron. Many guys Dinardo recruited while he was here are still playing on Sunday today.
After 3 yrs of DiNardo recruiting LSU was 4-7. After 4 years we were 3-8.
Posted on 4/6/09 at 9:50 am to lsufball19
Indiana. Hallman took the disaster that Archer started AND MADE IT WORSE! Dinardo practically started from Ground Zero.
Let's not start talking crazy.
Let's not start talking crazy.
Posted on 4/6/09 at 10:00 am to extremetigerfanatic
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Indiana. Hallman took the disaster that Archer started AND MADE IT WORSE! Dinardo practically started from Ground Zero.
This is just not true. I'm not defending Hallman's coaching in any way, but there is no way in hell DiNardo could have won 17 games in his first 2 years if he didn't have something to work with.
Posted on 4/6/09 at 10:42 am to Indiana Tiger
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Thank You Gerry D
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Indiana. Hallman took the disaster that Archer started AND MADE IT WORSE! Dinardo practically started from Ground Zero.
This is just not true. I'm not defending Hallman's coaching in any way, but there is no way in hell DiNardo could have won 17 games in his first 2 years if he didn't have something to work with.
when you start kevin faulk and herb tyler as true freshman you can, those were both his guys btw
Posted on 4/6/09 at 10:45 am to extremetigerfanatic
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Did Dinardo not bring us from 6 straight losing seasons and the bowels of the SEC to a decent SEC team that had the foundations laid for Saban's success?
The same could be said for John Brady, Curley Hallman, or Mike Shula.
Gerry took Hallman's players and had some success. When he left the talent level was at about the same level as he inherited when he came to LSU. I think his initial success went to his head and he began to believe that he was responsible for that success. Instead of replacing competent coaches as the left he took on more responsibility. The on field performance deteriorated quickly and the rest is history. We were back "in the bowels of the SEC". He had some great signing classes. Unfortunately some of the most talented players could not meet entrance requirements. Off the field problems took a couple of others.
I was a big Dinardo supporter up until the time that he was fired. His last season we had some great debates on the old "Geaux Board. I was on the wrong side of those debates.
Posted on 4/6/09 at 10:48 am to tduecen
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I appreciate what Gerry D started at LSU. Prior to him coming we were a no where team struggling to reach 6-6.
I appreciate what Saban completed at LSU--perennial football recruiting power. Gerry D. didn't do anything that had not been done before at LSU; Saban is the reason we are where we are today.
I apprreciate Miles for building on what Saban built and improving the coachinng staff above and beyond what Saban could get.
Posted on 4/6/09 at 10:53 am to Indiana Tiger
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but there is no way in hell DiNardo could have won 17 games in his first 2 years if he didn't have something to work with.
What's intereting is Saban's 18 wins in his first 2 years with vastly superior talent than DiNardo ever inherited.
1995 - 7-4-1
1996 - 10-2
2000 - 8-4
2001 - 10-3
Posted on 4/6/09 at 11:09 am to Sammich
Saban's greatest accomplishment was turning Louisiana High School Football into LSU's feeder program; no coach in the history of LSU football had ever done that.
Wins and losses don't compare to what Saban did for our recruiting program.
Wins and losses don't compare to what Saban did for our recruiting program.
Posted on 4/6/09 at 11:09 am to Sammich
Comparing Dinardo to Shula and Brady is fair. They all had success to a degree.
Comparing Dinardo to the clusterfrick that was Hallman is just retarded.
Comparing Dinardo to the clusterfrick that was Hallman is just retarded.
Posted on 4/6/09 at 11:25 am to Bad Cat
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Saban's greatest accomplishment was turning Louisiana High School Football into LSU's feeder program; no coach in the history of LSU football had ever done that
What? Most LSU coaches accomplished that.
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Wins and losses don't compare to what Saban did for our recruiting program.
There is nothing left of Saban's "Recruiting Program" at LSU. It's all Miles recruiting & has been for a long time. Saban recruits for Bama.
Posted on 4/6/09 at 1:13 pm to roygu
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Offense wasn't a problem? When Herb Tyler left we had three HS All American Quarterbacks and our offense was terrible
The offense was damn good in 1998. The team would score 36 points but give up 39. In 1999, the offense took a step back with no Herb Tyler and the defense did not do much better. But the 1998 team would have won a bunch of games with a merely average defense.
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