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re: The program's instability is on the administration
Posted on 12/31/15 at 6:50 pm to TJG210
Posted on 12/31/15 at 6:50 pm to TJG210
It wasn't really the admins. To be honest, they got put in a bad spot. The booster/s that we're going to pay the buy out got mouthy after the Arky game which caused most of the trouble.
This post was edited on 12/31/15 at 6:56 pm
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Posted on 12/31/15 at 6:55 pm to CoachChappy
Bingo, blame the BOS and boosters for that shite show.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:01 pm to TJG210
I still don't know why folks can't see that the leak was done on purpose to sink the deal and put in Alleva in his place. There are powerful folks who did not want to pay Miles' buyout. The fact that private funding would had to be used made them more upset about it. What happened was the desired effect, even if it meant short term embarrassment. See Mr. Weems' comments in November and information relayed on Stanley Jacobs. And no, the TAF was not united.
The leak was what made things look embarrassing, on purpose. That and Alleva's actions. These folks know how Alleva go about his business. The leak made him look bad (which is not hard to do) and made Miles into a victim/hero in the eyes of the talking heads. It was all planned. And there are some folks on the academic side of the house who simply despise and don't trust certain TAF types. Fear of boosters wanting to turn LSU into nothing more than a NFL farm team institution while neglecting academics.
Georgia handled it right? Not according to many here in Ga. where L live. Their AD is a ...e and a snake per them. At UGA the money people turned against Richt. At LSU the state's financial issue and politics helped Miles. There was money in this state that felt caving into PR backlash was the right thing. And there were a few who wanted Miles to stay all along:).
The leak was what made things look embarrassing, on purpose. That and Alleva's actions. These folks know how Alleva go about his business. The leak made him look bad (which is not hard to do) and made Miles into a victim/hero in the eyes of the talking heads. It was all planned. And there are some folks on the academic side of the house who simply despise and don't trust certain TAF types. Fear of boosters wanting to turn LSU into nothing more than a NFL farm team institution while neglecting academics.
Georgia handled it right? Not according to many here in Ga. where L live. Their AD is a ...e and a snake per them. At UGA the money people turned against Richt. At LSU the state's financial issue and politics helped Miles. There was money in this state that felt caving into PR backlash was the right thing. And there were a few who wanted Miles to stay all along:).
This post was edited on 12/31/15 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:06 pm to Stevo
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Bingo, blame the BOS and boosters for that shite show
That has been the issue for years. LSU boosters point out how Bama's REC for all intents and purposes took over Alabama's athletic department and made the move of the century in getting Saban after we did not accept him back. That is their justification in wanting more power and dictating as much as they can.
But over there we are talking about folks whose life is nothing but CFB. They would give up their first borns and sell their souls to Satan for wins. Not the case in BR, despite a section of our fan base and the TAF who are no worse or better than the most fanatical Updyke. We want to win. But at what cost????
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:07 pm to TJG210
Let it go
Let it go
Can't hold you back anymore
Let it go
Let it go
Turn my back and slam the door
Let it go
Can't hold you back anymore
Let it go
Let it go
Turn my back and slam the door
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:11 pm to LSURussian
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Let it go
When the administration, Board of Supervisors, and Boosters get on the same page.....I will.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:17 pm to Canwoodtiger
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Their AD is a ...e and a snake per them. At UGA the money people turned against
Have you paid attention to UGA? Richt has consistently underachieved, he was damn lucky to stay as long as he has.
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And there are some folks on the academic side of the house who simply despise and don't trust certain TAF types.
Yeap....the bob mann types....yet they gladly accept the $8 million dollar check that TAF has sent their way. The problem with the academic side is that they think they are the end all/be all and are clueless how much they benefit from a successful athletic department.
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There are powerful folks who did not want to pay Miles' buyout. The fact that private funding would had to be used made them more upset about it.
What are you talking about? Only private funds are used to fund LSU's athletics, do we not have a PR department who can handle getting the message out? One of the biggest losses the athletic department suffered was Herb Vincent leaving for the SEC office. Herb was an outstanding force inside our athletic department.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:17 pm to TJG210
So, you think bitching on an anonymous message board will influence the LSU "Board of Supervisors, Administration and boosters"? 
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:22 pm to LSURussian
the instability is just as much or more so on the boosters and fans
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:27 pm to TJG210
They should have just pulled the trigger and fired him when he got blew out by OM. If you had the money raised, you make the decision.
This post was edited on 12/31/15 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:28 pm to TJG210
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What are you talking about? Only private funds are used to fund LSU's athletics, do we not have a PR department who can handle getting the message out? One of the biggest losses the athletic department suffered was Herb Vincent leaving for the SEC office. Herb was an outstanding force inside our athletic department.
I'm talking about the fact that LSU would have to use private funds to go about buying out a state employee, which technically Miles is. Money spent on buying out and hiring new coaches, regardless if it was from private or public sources, would have been used against LSU in future negotiations with state. You don't think a late call from the Governor's office or some back channel information from certain legislators did not get back to Alexander? Dirty politics La. flavored can make things that are up look down and vice versa.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:31 pm to TJG210
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Have you paid attention to UGA? Richt has consistently underachieved, he was damn lucky to stay as long as he ha
Yes I do. I am married into a UGA family filled with UGA grads and have been forced to watch them for years LOL! Richt is not as bad as you think. Just like Miles is not as bad as you think. I say that and yes I did favor a change. But only for Jimbo or maybe five other coaches on this planet. To replace a guy with his track record it has to be a home run hire or its a step back.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:32 pm to boxcar willie
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the instability is just as much or more so on the boosters and fans
Agree somewhat. And folks'whose opinions matter the most would agree with your statement.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:36 pm to LSURussian
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So, you think bitching on an anonymous message board will influence the LSU "Board of Supervisors, Administration and boosters"?
Likely not, but fun place to blow off some steam. Funny enough the administration does like to monitor this site, check the emails they were sending back and forth to each other during the miles fiasco. Many links to this very site.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:55 pm to TJG210
All Les Miles and his staff have to do is their jobs and win. They are paid handsomely to do just that.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Alleva doesn't do any coaching, game planning, recruiting, scheming, or develop players. Miles has some of the finest facilities in the country, a fertile recruiting ground with no in state competition for recruits, great academic support for his players, a game day atmosphere unmatched in college football (at least before halftime) and a rabid (almost to a fault) fan base. Everything is there for him to succeed, but yet the program has been trending downwards.
How is that the fault of the administration? Miles is ultimately responsible for the product on the field. Not the administration.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Alleva doesn't do any coaching, game planning, recruiting, scheming, or develop players. Miles has some of the finest facilities in the country, a fertile recruiting ground with no in state competition for recruits, great academic support for his players, a game day atmosphere unmatched in college football (at least before halftime) and a rabid (almost to a fault) fan base. Everything is there for him to succeed, but yet the program has been trending downwards.
How is that the fault of the administration? Miles is ultimately responsible for the product on the field. Not the administration.
This post was edited on 12/31/15 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:05 pm to TJG210
Yes it is. #FireAlleva
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:09 pm to lsudude24
Yes, but the way alleva has gone about dealing with the assistants contracts is bush league. Again, why would a top flight assistant with no connections come here and deal with that bs when he just as well stay where he's at, or go somewhere else and not have to deal with the bs?
You can argue all day if we improved without chavis, but there's no doubt the way it was handled last year was an embarrassment on all sides.
And I'm not sure why some folks think this is a thread bashing miles, it isn't. Coaches who are successful as he is don't grow on trees, and if he does get run, I would say the chances a replacement exceeds what he has done here is less than 30%.
You can argue all day if we improved without chavis, but there's no doubt the way it was handled last year was an embarrassment on all sides.
And I'm not sure why some folks think this is a thread bashing miles, it isn't. Coaches who are successful as he is don't grow on trees, and if he does get run, I would say the chances a replacement exceeds what he has done here is less than 30%.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:13 pm to 1609tiger
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BS. 58th ranked offense over 5 years, poor QB recruitment and stubbornness is not on the adm.
^^^^^^^ Some of you need to stop making excuses for Miles.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:57 pm to Canwoodtiger
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I still don't know why folks can't see that the leak was done on purpose to sink the deal and put in Alleva in his place. There are powerful folks who did not want to pay Miles' buyout.
How high are you right now?
I'm pretty sure the University didn't want to be a national laughing stock for two weeks and there were 5 individuals that agreed to underwrite the entire transaction, the buyout of Miles and staff and new coach money.
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