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Posted on 4/26/11 at 1:19 pm to tduecen
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So can we pick and choose what plays we take away to fit our arguments now?
only if those plays make JJ look better and his competition look worse.
Posted on 4/26/11 at 1:20 pm to Zilla
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name a mediocre player who has had a ton of playing time and who suddenly just came out one year and was a new player the next?
T.J. Yates, North Carolina. He was outplayed by then freshman, Byrn Renner in the spring. A lot of N.C. fans wanted to go with the talented yougster vs. the 3yr starter who had been mostly inconsistent throughout his career.
Posted on 4/26/11 at 1:23 pm to BobBoucher
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urning 4 TDs and 10 INTs in to 10 TDs and 4 INTs in one offseason would be a freaking miracle.
I get the concerns i really do, but crouch won the heisman trophy while only throwing for 7 tds. So to say JJ needs to throw for tds for us to be successful is completely false. We are not a strictly option team but he can give us the tds on the ground if needed, and we have the backs that can carry the load of really pounding the ball.
JJ has been here. I dont believe the crap about players not liking him. I dont think we would have been as successful last year if that were the case. Example, RP gets the boot. A transfer and a rs fr plays qb. Things didnt go so well and at times players quit and had zero confidence. If mett starts it will be because he has gained the respect of the players and coaches and took command of the huddle. I think it will take longer than spring practice for him to do that.
This post was edited on 4/26/11 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 4/26/11 at 1:25 pm to dgnx6
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but crouch won the heisman trophy while only throwing for 7 tds. So to say JJ
to even assume JJ will win the Heisman is just plain absurd.
Posted on 4/26/11 at 1:30 pm to YouAre8Up
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Is that not why you recruit players that will fit into the offensive system that you are running?
So you think high school players are` ready and do not need college coaching? I don't think hs coaches get any player ready for college.
Posted on 4/26/11 at 1:32 pm to CptBengal
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to even assume JJ will win the Heisman is just plain absurd.
who said anything about JJ winning the heisman? But the notion that a qb has to throw for 28+tds to be any good is just plain absurd. Or that a qb has to throw for that many tds for their team to be successful is just plain absurd also.
Posted on 4/26/11 at 1:32 pm to PortCityTiger24
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Bobby I am proud that you aren't letting racism get in the way of supporting your team
Why should I? I coached HS football for over 20 years and am a retired teacher. Racism is a lame excuse for ignorant people that lose arguments.
Posted on 4/26/11 at 1:34 pm to Zilla
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name a mediocre player who has had a ton of playing time and who suddenly just came out one year and was a new player the next?
Believe it or not, some good coaching helps........maybe it will finally click for JJ.
Posted on 4/26/11 at 1:36 pm to Bobby Moore
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I get the concerns i really do, but crouch won the heisman trophy while only throwing for 7 tds
Not even a similiar offense or situation. Crouch had been succesful going into his heisman season and JJ is no where near the same level as a runner as Crouch! Thought I doubt Crouch was much worse as a passer
Posted on 4/26/11 at 1:36 pm to Bobby Moore
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So you think high school players are` ready and do not need college coaching? I don't think hs coaches get any player ready for college.
Some do. But most likely ur best athlete is playing qb. Even though he might be playing wr, rb, cb or s at the next level. Some guys take longer to develop than others. Claiborne stepped up rt away and the coaches knew they had cb. While other players may get switched around a couple of times.
Posted on 4/26/11 at 1:40 pm to tduecen
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put me in the skeptical category.
I've seen your posts, I think you stay in that category......
Krags was hired to work on the mechanics of the QB's. The guy knows what hes doing. You won't see the same offense that was seen in the Spring game.
Posted on 4/26/11 at 1:46 pm to chilge1
quote:Just saying: This is the reson so many people find fault with JJ, he does not consistently converge in 3rd down situations. Hopefully, Kreg will help in this area.
Statistically? Sure. But when the RB fails to break the plane on four tries from the one yard line, and consistently fails to pick up 3rd downs... that colors things differently. Particularly when you're using this performance as a judgment of a player's overall capacity. I'm going to look at the 13 times than the guy went into the line and got stuffed rather than the one time he broke it big. One play says nothing about a player.
Posted on 4/26/11 at 1:46 pm to Rudy40
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Not even a similiar offense or situation. Crouch had been succesful going into his heisman season and JJ is no where near the same level as a runner as Crouch! Thought I doubt Crouch was much worse as a passer
I was just giving an example of how a team can be succesful without double digit tds from their starting qb. JJ doesnt have to be vick or crouch, we have rbs, we have guys like shep and gore that can do that. JJ just needs to sustain drives with a run here a pass there. He rushed for 7tds last year, thats twice as much as anyone returning. So ford and ware have to step up big time for JJ to be a successful qb for us because he isnt going to beat teams with his arm. The read option is where he will need to excel at.
Regardless of who plays qb, the coaches need to call plays according to their ability.
This post was edited on 4/26/11 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 4/26/11 at 1:50 pm to dgnx6
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So ford and ware have to step up big time for JJ to be a successful qb for us because he isnt going to beat teams with his arm.
so our rb's need to step up because our qb is another rb.
that's some brilliant support of JJ's lack of ability.
Posted on 4/26/11 at 1:54 pm to dgnx6
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So ford and ware have to step up big time for JJ to be a successful qb for us because he isnt going to beat teams with his arm.
and if I coached against LSU, I would have an eleven man defensive front....
Posted on 4/26/11 at 2:00 pm to LSUDad
quote:Nope but I am not going to buy the hype just because someone says "x player is improving" I will wait until I see it. Maybe Jefferson comes out and makes everyone look foolish, maybe he comes in and struggles, I don't know. What I do know is without decent QB play LSU isn't going to challenge for SEC Title or a National Title which is still the ultimate goal.
I've seen your posts, I think you stay in that category......
Posted on 4/26/11 at 2:04 pm to tduecen
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What I do know is without decent QB play
This is true, many times decent play is all you need.
Posted on 4/26/11 at 2:06 pm to LSUDad
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This is true, many times decent play is all you need.
I think most agree that is what LSU needs and JJ has not given that to the team. He has been far below decent! 110th out of 116th is no where near decent!
Posted on 4/26/11 at 2:14 pm to Bobby Moore
Does this mean that Krags could have developed Chad Loup also?
Krags can change anyone, despite significant resident issues with said QB?
Krags can change anyone, despite significant resident issues with said QB?
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