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re: Tim Williams on playing LSU
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:28 pm to Space Cowboy
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:28 pm to Space Cowboy
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Like we probably would have won one in 2006 and then again in 2011, and probably another one as well.
I'm going to give Les a pass on 2006 . I blame SEC officials for keeping us out of the championship game. Remember the b.s. hold call and the no call on the int where they said the ball was tipped so the interference was OK(won't go into the particulars...everyone knows them) Also Florida that year was pretty damned good.
I actually blame Ryan Perrilloux more for us not winning additional championships. If the dude could have stayed out of trouble, he had a supporting cast that in 2008 and even 2009 that could have stopped Saban in his tracks. Remember that before 2009 Les was not afraid to throw the football
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:36 pm to lsupride87
You can't completely overhaul an offensive system in the middle of the season. How many times does it have to be said?
This team was hamstrung from the poor decisions of the regime before them
These issues have been glaring for years.
This team was hamstrung from the poor decisions of the regime before them
These issues have been glaring for years.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:37 pm to 1999
So fricking glad Les is gone. That garbage was painful to watch.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:54 pm to glorymanutdtiger
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We did and Etling could not complete simple passes under pressure
Yes we tried last year and DE had his worst performance. We will need a QB that can make throws under pressure and move the ball with feet a little.
You will not beat Bama without a good QB no one has since 2011.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 4:24 pm to 1999
No wonder Saban was crying when miles got fired
Posted on 5/9/17 at 4:36 pm to sicboy
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I don't think there's a more frustrating memory about this series than settling for a FG after the fumble recovery in the '14 game.
That had nothing to do with play calling and everything to do with a bullshite personal foul penalty that pushed us out to the 20 yard line.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 5:35 pm to 1999
To Mr. Williams:
"Thanks Capt. Obvious"
"Thanks Capt. Obvious"
Posted on 5/9/17 at 5:42 pm to Midtiger farm
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Midtiger farm
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So if it's impossible to score on Saban's defense explain how every team scores more than LSU and has more yards? Ole Miss OL is shite and they have made Bama's defense their bitch 3 years in a row
Hey yo Bill Walsh. Stop putting words in my mouth. No one said it's impossible to score on them. Miles' issues with roster management and player development sewed the seeds of that loss.
In short, just like Les won with Saban's talent...Orgeron lost with Les'. Ignoring that or somehow thinking or even trying to articulate here that we could roll four Guards out to start on our OL and then start our best tackle at Center and somehow not blame Les for that staggering level of mismanagement of the most important position on the field when playing that opponent is peak ranter, which you are redlining at now.
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 5/9/17 at 6:01 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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What I dont understand is that tgey simply didnt use anything from the offense that we had run prior to that game. What happened to the plays with Guice and LF in the same backfield? What happened to moving the pocket for Etling? The fact that posters want to give O credit for arkansad,missourri and ole miss and yet give him zero blame for bama and Florida is amazing.
This is my problem as well and for the life of me i can't understand why people are content to losing by 10 to Bama.
It was the perfect opportunity to beat them. At home, freshman QB, defense playing lights out.
What does O and Ensminger do? roll out the same tired gameplan that lost us the last 4 years. If the mizzou gameplan would've been used against bama, we win that game. Not a doubt in my mind.
We ran exactly ZERO of those 'new' plays that were working so well. No plays to hide our terrible Oline. No screens, jets, hell even a trick play or two. Nothing.
And O gets a complete pass. I guess people see what they want to see, and nothing more.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 6:10 pm to 1999
Mett threw for 296 yards against bama.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 6:13 pm to GFunk
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In short, just like Les won with Saban's talent...Orgeron lost with Les'.
Les beat Nick Saban 7 years after he left LSU.
Average rank of recruiting class before Les, 9.75. Average rank of recruiting class when Les was fired, 5.75.
On paper, o inherited a more talented team.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 6:18 pm to 1999
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"If #LSU would have thrown the ball, it would have been a different 3-4 years."
With the SEC offices in Birmingham, Alabama, the officials from the state of Alabama and the SEC offices greasing the SEC community with millions of dollars to placate the losers ?
Nothing is going to change for LSU or Baton Rouge or Louisiana ever!
LSU has only one choice "vacate the SEC."
Posted on 5/9/17 at 6:24 pm to c on z
quote:spot on
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So you're going to compare Orgeron's 4th game into an interim season to Les and his 11 years of building his team?
1.) It was the absolute worst offensive performance by a Bama opponent in the season.
2.) The offense was far less imaginative in that game than in the 1st 3 games.
3.) Guice only having 2 carries was one of the most inexcusable things O could have allowed under his watch.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 6:27 pm to SportTiger1
How about the fact that Etling had only a few starts under his belt and was under his second OC in a year.
I swear some of you bought into the national championship bull shite street the Missouri game hook line and sinker. No one is saying that was the right game plan, but the Orgeron haters probably have the highest standards for him of all. A lot of us were saying in the games leading up to Alabama that there was only so much you could fix with the offense. It was dumb to expect anything but that in game 4.
I swear some of you bought into the national championship bull shite street the Missouri game hook line and sinker. No one is saying that was the right game plan, but the Orgeron haters probably have the highest standards for him of all. A lot of us were saying in the games leading up to Alabama that there was only so much you could fix with the offense. It was dumb to expect anything but that in game 4.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 7:06 pm to dljtigers
I'm still amazed at how this board takes up for Etling..some still refuse to admit that Etling is not a very good qb. I'll say it again. Etling took no more hits that Watson and the qb from Arky when they played Bama. They produced against Bama...If you go back and watch the film of the Bama game you will see that there were plenty of plays to be made in the passing game.Once you hit him a few times he is done...you can't play Bama and expect not to get hit... Danny doesn't have the arm strength or awareness to lead us to the promise land.. Unless that changes we will be in the same boat.. Did anyone watch the spring game?Still has a noodle arm.. Excuses I expect to hear.."oh his back" total bs let's see if the arm is stronger in August.."oh it was the spring game we didn't want to show anything" you mean like completing a forward pass? You been saying that for the last 10 years...I'm amazed that we still can't complete a simple forward pass on a regular basis.. I'm sorry guys I ain't buying shite this offense selling until I see us complete a forward pass on a regular bases..
Posted on 5/9/17 at 7:34 pm to jw5377
I knew this stupid fricking thread would still be going
Y'all are relentless
Y'all are relentless
Posted on 5/9/17 at 7:38 pm to Mr. Hangover
8 pages and still no win in this thread
Posted on 5/9/17 at 7:44 pm to SportTiger1
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No plays to hide our terrible Oline.
Please explain how you "hide an O-Line?" Especially one not quick enough to trap block them, or even physical enough to get a stalemate to even attempt pulling, or damn near anything else.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 7:50 pm to sicboy
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I don't think there's a more frustrating memory about this series than settling for a FG after the fumble recovery in the '14 game.
Even worse.... we recovered the MF'ing ball at Bama's 10 yard line.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 8:13 pm to lsu2006
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Yet here you are saying Orgeron's stint at Ole Miss wasn't a failure. You are in a league of your own
Explain to me how O’s stint at Ole Miss was a failure dingbat? O was hired to rebuild the Ole Miss’s football program from scratch after it had been decimated by David Cutcliffe. Sort of like Charlie Strong was hired to rebuild the Texas football program after it had been decimated by Mack Brown too.
O signed a four-year contract to do it, just like Charlie Strong signed a four-year deal to do it at Texas too. However, after three years the Athletic Department got cold feet and fired O, just like the Texas Athletic Department got cold feet at Texas and fired Strong at the end of the season last year.
Then Houston Nutt gets hired at Ole Miss and comes in and immediately wins with coach O’s player in what would have been coach O’s fourth year of his contract. So, we will see if Tom Herman will be able to win immediately with Charlie Strong’s players next season in what would have been Strong’s fourth year of his contract. If not, then that means that Strong didn’t do as good of a job as O did.
In fact, in the three years’ you idiots vilify and demonize O as being a dismal failure for at Ole Miss, the truth is he was very successful because he had successfully rebuilt the Ole Miss football program from scratch. Indeed, he did exactly what he set out to do. However, he wasn’t able to enjoy the fruits of his labor because the Ole Miss Athletic Department got cold feet.
Meanwhile, Nutt wins at Ole Miss for as long as O’s players remain. Once they graduate the Ole Miss program goes downhill so fast it makes your head spin.
Then your idol, Les Miles, comes into the LSU program after Nick Saban had conveniently already recruited a national championship team and had it stockpiled up for him in our coffers.
Then Miles blows games in 2005, like a 21-point halftime lead at home to a Tennessee team that only won five games the whole season. He did it again in 2006, keeping us out of the National Title game with what was probably our best team in decades. In 2007, he blew games again and took us out of the national title hunt another time, but somehow a very unlikely fluke of a miracle happened and we miraculously ended up in the title game anyway and easily won.
Nonetheless, none of Miles’s success early on or late, for that matter, was due to Miles. In fact, he couldn’t even figure out how to manage a damn clock and still can’t to this day. Instead, it was all due to the strength of the LSU football program, it’s excellent facilities, and its excellent location in the Mecca of college football recruiting, and our program was mostly built by Nick Saban before he left for Miami. LSU won despite the excess baggage and excess liability of Les Miles, and the best thing that could have happened last season was getting rid of Miles and replacing him with a competent head coach. Hallelujah.
So, what happened to you? Apparently, your mother must have deliberately dropped you on your head when you were a baby and then blamed it on you when you were older. Otherwise, I can’t figure out why you are so damn dumb.
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