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re: Why can't Ohio State beat an SEC Team???
Posted on 7/11/08 at 10:30 am to spslayto
Posted on 7/11/08 at 10:30 am to spslayto
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I don't know why they haven't faired better in bowls. Michigan seems to beat the SEC every other year in a bowl game, while Ohio State is consistenly beating Michigan.
damn...beat me to it. no way mich is as good a program as osu but they seem to do well vs sec
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Posted on 7/11/08 at 11:05 am to The Ramp
Agreed. I really respect Ohio State and its traditions. It truly is one of college football's elite programs. They haven't faired well against the SEC in bowl games, but that doesn't diminish their program. Hell, I'm almost hoping they knock off an SEC opponent in a bowl game so some people will just stfu about it.
Posted on 7/11/08 at 11:08 am to geauxbrown
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Because they play in a weaker conference, therefore they don't get prepared though the season????
Penn St, Wisconsin and Michigan play in the same conference as Ohio State and they have all beaten SEC teams in bowls the last 2 years.
Posted on 7/11/08 at 11:10 am to aibo synthetic
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They can beat an SEC team. LSU doesn't have a winning record against them
damn, good point, I totaly missed that, tOSU is 0-9 vs. the SEC in bowls
Posted on 7/11/08 at 11:11 am to H-Town Tiger
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Penn St, Wisconsin and Michigan play in the same conference as Ohio State and they have all beaten SEC teams in bowls the last 2 years.
Understood, but does that give them the battle testing they need to compete with SEC schools by the end of the year?
Posted on 7/11/08 at 11:13 am to geauxbrown
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Understood, but does that give them the battle testing they need to compete with SEC schools by the end of the year?
It sure gives it to the other teams in the Big 10. The SEC has not owned the Big 10 in bowl games, but has had success against Ohio State. I can't figure it out because Ohio State has dominated the Big 10.
Posted on 7/11/08 at 11:16 am to Buckeye06
"An injury, stupid penalties, and being lazy for 2 months "
BINGO
Why wont the Big10 add a team so they can have a conf. champ. game
BINGO
Why wont the Big10 add a team so they can have a conf. champ. game
Posted on 7/11/08 at 11:20 am to DaDink
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Why wont the Big10 add a team so they can have a conf. champ. game
The SEC did not have to add the championship game...they were the first to choose to do it. Perhaps the Big Ten does not want to mess with tradition.
Posted on 7/11/08 at 11:50 am to geauxbrown
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Understood, but does that give them the battle testing they need to compete with SEC schools by the end of the year
This "battletested" stuff is over rated. Florida and LSU were better than Ohio State the last 2 years, its that simple. In 2005, Ohio State could have beaten any team in the SEC.
Posted on 7/11/08 at 11:51 am to tigerfan75
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Wearing too much red!LOL!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Man that's funny!!!
Posted on 7/11/08 at 12:26 pm to GoldenBoy
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Perhaps the Big Ten does not want to mess with tradition.
Which explains perfectly why the Big-10 as 11 teams. The truth is that they could extend their season out like the Pac-10 does so not to have such a long time between their last game and the bowl game, but the problem is weather. The Big-10 has a rule that their season has to be finished by Thanksgiving, as it just gets too cold later in November and early December.
One option is too add a late ooc game vs. a mid-major. A road game at Hawaii would be perfect, Purdue did that a couple years ago. It is difficult to schedule a late ooc game, but certain mid-majors who want to make a name for themselves would be up for it. Teams like Fresno, Hawaii if you travel to them, etc....
Posted on 7/11/08 at 12:38 pm to Buckeye06
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They beat us, but what the score doesn't say is that OSU outgained LSU.
ummm, congrats? Winning the turnover battle 3:1, shutting your offense down, and OSU scoring with their starters with a minute left will do that. Find victories wherever you can.
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if the UF loss had never happened, people would not be saying that LSU destroyed OSU.
really? You tacked on a late garbage time TD to make it a 14 point loss. We could have easily won by 21+. No rational person could watch that game and say that that OSU didn't get destroyed.
Posted on 7/11/08 at 12:42 pm to tigerfan75
I think it boils down to 4 factors
1. Offense
2,. Defense
3. Special Teams
4. Coaching.
1. Offense
2,. Defense
3. Special Teams
4. Coaching.
This post was edited on 7/11/08 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 7/11/08 at 1:05 pm to el tigre
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really? You tacked on a late garbage time TD to make it a 14 point loss. We could have easily won by 21+. No rational person could watch that game and say that that OSU didn't get destroyed.
That last TD was also a 30 yd drive that was caused by Boeckman trying to force something on 4th down. Any other time/situation and OSU punts.
Posted on 7/11/08 at 1:55 pm to MN Tigah
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What hurt OSU was the lack of good competition to prepare them for that war!
This past season - I 100% agree. I feel Ohio St. should have been primed to play for this years NC game, not last year's. Ohio St. was not good enough to beat a great team like LSU last season no matter how anyone slices it; LSU was the best in the land last season. Period!
This post was edited on 7/11/08 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 7/11/08 at 2:58 pm to Muahahaha
Michigan was supposed to be the dominating force last year but they failed to step up when it mattered. The rest of the Big Ten also failed in getting Ohio State prepared for LSU. The Big Ten might have been pretty rotten last year, but RARELY is it that bad. I believe this year will be a better measuring stick for how Ohio State fairs.
Hopefully that SEC team is Georgia.
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I would hate to be that SEC team that OSU finally beats in a bowl game. Can you imagine the crap that team would take from the Big 10 and SEC homers?
Hopefully that SEC team is Georgia.
Posted on 7/11/08 at 4:19 pm to ohiosportfan777
Hear me and hear me good. OSU benefits from playing in a weaker conference. If the 2006 and 2007 OSU teams were in the SEC you would equate to about a South Carolina and South Carolina doesn't make it to SECCG let alone the BCS. If LSU played in the Big Ten in 2006, we would have played Florida in the BCS title game.
In essence, your rankings are overrated because of your conference. That is not to say that OSU is not capable of putting together a VERY good team that wins the BCS, it is just saying that your 2006 and 2007 teams would not have been in the BCS had they played in the SEC.
As such, you are matching up with much better teams that dominate you because your team really isn't an elite team.
In essence, your rankings are overrated because of your conference. That is not to say that OSU is not capable of putting together a VERY good team that wins the BCS, it is just saying that your 2006 and 2007 teams would not have been in the BCS had they played in the SEC.
As such, you are matching up with much better teams that dominate you because your team really isn't an elite team.
Posted on 7/11/08 at 5:00 pm to H-Town Tiger
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This "battletested" stuff is over rated. Florida and LSU were better than Ohio State the last 2 years, its that simple. In 2005, Ohio State could have beaten any team in the SEC.
I agree 100%. The 2005 team was a strong, strong football team that lost to #1 in the final minutes of the game and to #3 on the road in an extremely hostile environment.
2006 & 2007 the defense was overrated. I'm thinking that should change in 2008 with all the seniors returning.
Posted on 7/11/08 at 5:02 pm to el tigre
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really? You tacked on a late garbage time TD to make it a 14 point loss. We could have easily won by 21+. No rational person could watch that game and say that that OSU didn't get destroyed.
LSU's last TD was also in garbage time so the argument is moot. BTW, haven't you figured out that having a drive at the end of a loss can be a positive for the team in preparation for the next game or season? Teams do it all the time in a loss. The game does last for 60 minutes after all.
Posted on 7/11/08 at 5:06 pm to gpttigers
Hear me and hear me good. OSU benefits from playing in a weaker conference. If the 2006 and 2007 OSU teams were in the SEC you would equate to about a South Carolina and South Carolina doesn't make it to SECCG let alone the BCS. If LSU played in the Big Ten in 2006, we would have played Florida in the BCS title game.
Your last sentence is complete BS and you know it. Look at players drafted out of Ohio State and LSU since 2000 and then tell me with a straight face that Ohio State doesn't have an elite college football program. That's just the SEC homer in you talking.
Converse to your argument it can easily be argued that is Ohio State had played in the SEC in 2006 and 2007 they'd have been more battle tested and would have performed better in the BCS bowl game.
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In essence, your rankings are overrated because of your conference. That is not to say that OSU is not capable of putting together a VERY good team that wins the BCS, it is just saying that your 2006 and 2007 teams would not have been in the BCS had they played in the SEC.
As such, you are matching up with much better teams that dominate you because your team really isn't an elite team.
Your last sentence is complete BS and you know it. Look at players drafted out of Ohio State and LSU since 2000 and then tell me with a straight face that Ohio State doesn't have an elite college football program. That's just the SEC homer in you talking.
Converse to your argument it can easily be argued that is Ohio State had played in the SEC in 2006 and 2007 they'd have been more battle tested and would have performed better in the BCS bowl game.
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