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re: Why doesn't LSU play good teams before SEC play?

Posted on 2/28/11 at 11:03 pm to
Posted by Factsman
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 11:03 pm to
I said it helps you have success not the end all be all
Posted by Swat5
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 11:04 pm to
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You are saying it doesn't help


Im saying you have no data to back up your opinion that playing 3-6 pre conf OOC games against better teams actually makes a difference in SEC play. There should be alot of evidence of this.
Posted by Factsman
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 11:04 pm to
Show me the evidence that it doesn't help if it is so cut and dry
Posted by Swat5
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 11:04 pm to
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I said it helps you have success not the end all be all


based on what?

Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 11:05 pm to
I'd like to see better teams come to the Box. I think a bunch of fans would; maybe then actual attendance would be a bit closer to paid. I also think, at least historically, there is some precedence for tougher schedule=more prepared team. Look, the SEC is very good, but it's baseball, not football we're talking here. The Pac 10 and Cali teams are as good as anything around here, and they play each other OOC a bunch. And it doesn't seem to hurt them much in seeding, having a few extra losses on the record.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 11:09 pm to
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In fact...role players getting to play significant time can really help the team. It's just a matter of perspective really.


what about trying to fill open positions with players that will have to hit SEC pitching? how do you gauge that vs teams like Holy Cross?

and pitchers that will have to pitch against SEC hitters?

do we want to find out in back to back weeks vs CSF and Florida, or know what you have before that?


what about raising the level of play from our veterans by playing better teams?
Posted by Factsman
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 11:09 pm to
Did you really play juco ball and are asking that

Musta been njcaa d3
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 11:10 pm to
quote:

Im saying you have no data to back up your opinion that playing 3-6 pre conf OOC games against better teams actually makes a difference in SEC play. There should be alot of evidence of this.


do you have data proves the other side of the story?
Posted by Factsman
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 11:10 pm to
I've been asking for it
Posted by Swat5
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 11:12 pm to
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do you have data proves the other side of the story?


none
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 11:13 pm to
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none



and as a former ball player, you didnt feel better prepared for better teams in your conference after you played better teams early on in a schedule, rather than shitty teams?
Posted by Jwodie
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 11:14 pm to
I can't believe a this ridiculous thread has lasted this long. LSU just won a National Title two seasons ago with this very same format for pre-SEC play. Get a life you fools debating the intricacies and facets of our pre-SEC schedule. Jesus H...
Posted by Swat5
Houston
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 11:14 pm to
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what about trying to fill open positions with players that will have to hit SEC pitching?


Who are the "great" SEC pitchers? I thought that Lefty Holy Cross pitcher on Sunday was a pretty damn good pitcher. Besides a couple UF and Vandy starters..who are the "great" SEC pitchers?

Posted by Factsman
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 11:15 pm to
That was a veteran team who had been to Omaha the year before
Posted by Factsman
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 11:16 pm to
I sit behind the dish and he was avg at best unless he had a bad day
Posted by Swat5
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 11:18 pm to
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and as a former ball player, you didnt feel better prepared for better teams in your conference after you played better teams early on in a schedule, rather than shitty teams?


As a basketball and football player...maybe a little...but as a 1st baseman/hitter...not really. But i would say the change in competition was only minimal..so maybe i cant say with confidence.

Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 11:18 pm to
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Who are the "great" SEC pitchers? I thought that Lefty Holy Cross pitcher on Sunday was a pretty damn good pitcher. Besides a couple UF and Vandy starters..who are the "great" SEC pitchers?



what kind of question is this?

i think it is safe to say that the pitching we will see in the SEC is much better than these teams we are playing right now.

it's irrelevant who the great pitchers are. The pitching on a whole is on a whole different level.
Posted by Factsman
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 11:21 pm to
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The pitching on a whole is on a whole different level.


it baffles me that he doesnt get this and he played juco ball
Posted by Factsman
Badstreet USA
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 11:23 pm to
where did you play?

cause d1 juco is serious shite

and no lsue plays d2
Posted by Swat5
Houston
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 11:27 pm to
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i think it is safe to say that the pitching we will see in the SEC is much better than these teams we are playing right now.


Most likely.

quote:

it's irrelevant who the great pitchers are. The pitching on a whole is on a whole different level.


You said the same thing above...but OK...doesnt really mean our batters will hit better because they see better pitchers during a weekend series before SEC. Now I do believe playing a couple of months in the SEC helps when Regionals/Supers comes along...a little at least.

TCU didnt play anybody last year and went to the world series. Freshman Purke was undefeated during the regular season playing nobody...and yet...still went undefeated in regionals/supers/CWS.

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