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Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:47 am to tiger81
That’s different than the comment I responded to. Auburn has won the most games of any SEC schools in the last 5 seasons.
If my math is correct:
AU=111 wins
LSU=101 wins
If my math is correct:
AU=111 wins
LSU=101 wins
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 8:50 am
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:54 am to WDE24
These types of threads (same with the one comparing him to Kim Mulkey above) only reveal what low-level of intellect we have here.
So he's not as accomplished or experienced as someone with 20-25 years of experience as a head coach at a high major program? No shite? Man, how do you keep espn from breaking down your front door to hire you?
Posted on 1/20/22 at 9:04 am to b rod lsu
Nm
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 9:12 am
Posted on 1/20/22 at 11:15 am to boudinman
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Let's see Wade get his team to a Final Four before touting how great he is. He's a good coach and recruiter but it's all about March Madness
Correct…. Dale far exceeded WW in buying talent to come to LSU and he did land the program on NCAA probation…. So, yes, he’s no Dale Brown
Posted on 1/20/22 at 12:15 pm to Flablete
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His teams had some of the best talent this university has ever seen
Brown had Shaq, Roberts and Jackson all on the same team, and couldn't even challenge for an SEC title and won one NCAA tourney game.
The 1980-81 Final Four team was legit, but the other Final four team was pedestrian until a magical run as an 11 seed, still tied for lowest ever seed to make a Final Four.
He's the most accomplished coach in LSU history for sure, but more times than not his teams underachieved.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 12:22 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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I'm a Wade fan, but Dale Brown took over a complete piece of shite of a program. Johnny Jones clearly didn't cut it as a coach, but he only had one losing season in the SEC (his last year - which was pathetic) before Wade took over. Wade had his shortcomings as a coach, but he is still learning and is building a really good program with his recruiting, etc.
I bet you didn't know that before Press's last year the team went 10-8 and finished third in the SEC. This was post Pete but better than we did in Pete's sophomore or junior year.
The programs each took over were equally putrid. Jones left as little talent relatively speaking as Press did to Dale.
The cases are very analogous and IMHO it's more than fair to compare each on even ground. In fact if anything I'd say the SEC now is tougher than when Dale took over.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 12:33 pm to boudinman
Ok boomer
Posted on 1/20/22 at 12:40 pm to ecb
Dale could recruit he couldn't coach shite.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 1:08 pm to Tiger Ugly
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I bet you didn't know that before Press's last year the team went 10-8 and finished third in the SEC. This was post Pete but better than we did in Pete's sophomore or junior year.
The programs each took over were equally putrid. Jones left as little talent relatively speaking as Press did to Dale.
The cases are very analogous and IMHO it's more than fair to compare each on even ground. In fact if anything I'd say the SEC now is tougher than when Dale took over.
Possibly, but LSU only had 4 winning seasons in 18 years before Brown took over and had only been to 3 tournaments (NCAA and NIT combined) before Dale Brown. That is pretty awful. LSU didn't even do anything special with the best scorer in NCAA history with Pistol Pete. LSU basketball had an overall losing record before Brown and he ended up taking LSU to 15 straight tournaments (10 NCAA tourneys in a row).
Brown took over a program with zero interest and it took him some time, but he built it into an exciting, winning program with tons of interest.
Johnny Jones even somehow managed to have 4 winning seasons out of 5, so LSU wasn't a completely pathetic program when Wade took it over, but I agree that Jones left him with a crappy roster. Wade has done a great job and is building LSU into a top-tier winner in the SEC though in a very competitive time for SEC basketball. And he is doing it fast. Neither had easy tasks, that is for sure.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 5:25 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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Possibly, but LSU only had 4 winning seasons in 18 years before Brown took over and had only been to 3 tournaments (NCAA and NIT combined) before Dale Brown. That is pretty awful. LSU didn't even do anything special with the best scorer in NCAA history with Pistol Pete. LSU basketball had an overall losing record before Brown and he ended up taking LSU to 15 straight tournaments (10 NCAA tourneys in a row).
I mean i see what you are saying but really that is irrelevant - if JJ had 3 winning seasons before the downfall or whatever the program he left WW was awful - it had been gutted, the reputation or what was left of it tarnished, no fan support, no interest, old arena and on and on.
It only matters what the program is when you get it having won at a halfway decent clip 2 years before that has no bearing on the reality - both programs were crap and it's absolutely analogous and fair to compare side-by-side.
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Brown took over a program with zero interest and it took him some time,
You think there was any interest in the program when WW took over? I have dozens of examples I could give to prove that and will if you'd like.
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Johnny Jones even somehow managed to have 4 winning seasons out of 5,
Again, not relevant....Press had winning seasons 4 of the 5 years before Dale took over. So What? All that matters were both programs were $hitshows when Dale and WW took over.
quote:It wasn't just bad rosters it was every facet of the program and both coaches faced that - IMHO to a fairly equal and even degree.
but I agree that Jones left him with a crappy roster
It's o.k. to like both coaches if you want even if they don't particularly care for each other - but IMHO if your are going to compare, I think comparing each of their first 5 years is just that -a fair comparison...really the only fair way to compare them at this point IMHO.
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